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Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.
Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)
-- rishi
>>Where? <<
For example:
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
And the rest are moving in the "right direction" too. ;-)
But Reseller - really at the moment I am looking at how Google is handling Canonical urls accross the DCs.
That is the issue they need to address with this update/non-update.
Until they have that right - sites can not return properly. (Or so it seems)
and yes sometimes there are encouraging signs but the number of false dawns there has been - anyone would be foolish to say that they have got it fixed until it it is fixed on all dcs for all sites that have been effected.
They seem a long long way off from that at this stage - but sometimes things change quickly - lets hope so.
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
And the rest are moving in the "right direction" too. ;-)"
I sure hope so..! those are the dcs im hanging on to as well.. they seem to yield good results, and have fixed the url problem (for me at least)
if those DCs "have been set up as temporary feeder centers", what's the reason for those DCs to show some differences in ranking vs others? SERPs in those DCs are different as if Google had released/applied certain "filters/penalties", according to your opion will those changes expand to other DCs once the feeding process is over, or will the SERPs continue in line with those of theSorry if the question does not make sense...
PS: I dissapeared on 9/22, have no redirect problem, never had but do have adsense in all my pages, and I'm back in those DCs mentioned, although I'm the only one back out of the four sites which fell to positions +100 for the keywords that I follow
The feeder centers have a load of useless data. It looks like they just want to extact as much useful pages as they can before they purge the data completly. The feeder centers were loaded very quickly on Sunday probably because they do not have all of the correct ranking critera applied and all of the filters included. I predict these centers will go back to the normal index in a few days once the extraction is complete. If these were the new serps they would have started to propagate accross all of the centers by now. Instead, we are seeing fluctuations on the other centers that seem to be influenced by different data.
Again, this is just a guess based on early observation. I could be completly wrong. Have you not noticed that these centers get the fresh tags last? Just another indication that these are not their pride and joy serps.
Google,
PLEASE get rid of the supplementals, or at least dont penalize us for them.
>>wow!
just ran a personal search in the uk and the top 8 results were all supplementals and not one page exsisted....<<
Please donīt talk like that about my best friend Google UK ;-)
I have a very special love feeling to that faithful engine. It kept its promiss and continued on sending merry referrals to my site (though my domain is a .dk one) during the dark days of Allegra and 22nd July.
Google UK shall emerge victorious again when Bacon Polenta Update is over...
Rule, Google UK! Google Uk, rule the waves... ;-)
solid arguments but just to give you an example in most other dcs still appear pages from my sites which were deleted (404s) months ago, however in those "feeding" they are no longer in the index, why?
solid arguments but just to give you an example in most other dcs still appear pages from my sites which were deleted (404s) months ago, however in those "feeding" they are no longer in the index, why?
Are you finding this through an operator function such as site:www.domain.com? or normal serps?
Google does things in stages. This would be a good observation for you to do. Where you see your 404's wait a couple of days and see if they are removed. Even if they do not dissapear, this may be a last step in their process. I really do not know and I am like everyone else and trying to figure out what they are doing. My observation makes the most sense to me and I invite arguments to the contrary.
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}!^www\.yourdomain\.com [NC]
You might post that in the apache forum to be sure.
Google, what is the benefit of having non-existent supplemental pages in your index?
Why are you unable to remove pages that haven't existed since January (for me)?
Why is it that when I do a Google search for keywords on my site that non-existent supplemental pages appear in the results before real pages?
Why do I need to get emails from customers saying 'Google is sending me to 404 error pages...is there something wrong with your site?'
those are old and will not stick.
"64.233.167.147"those are old and will not stick.
not for me, for sure. never ranked #1 before ;)
Those are the results I've seen spread from 4 to 10 centers that I've been following for the past week.
66.102.7.147 new data, many sites are gone.
These are still changing which is great news for us. I also see these results on two more datacenters as of an hour ago.
They are *similar* to results I've seen before in terms of other (competitive) sites ...
On Oct. 10 that site was showing all my sites gone, gone, gone.
Now I like what they are doing there just fine.
is showing more results for most searches than
64.233.167.147
So, I am curious, and this may sound naive, but what do we think they're doing?
This is my idea: they are applying different variations of filters and/or algorithms at various DCs, and then a Google team looks at various results by hand and decides whether the new results are more relevant.
Whatcha think?
MJ
I'd give up all the worrying until this is over. :)
As I mentioned in a previous post today, I still see fresh new results on these 3 DCs, as far as my site and my test keyphrases are concerned.
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
And there are other DCs showing the same results now!
>>is showing more results for most searches than
>>64.233.167.147
Exactly - 66.102.7.147 shows lots of crap supplementals etc.
64.233.167.147 seems more progressive.
But whatever, G still have not fixed the underlying problem :/
64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
But... even looking only at that 64.233.161 block, the SERPs wobble back and forth between being a completely new set, never been seen before, and exactly the same as all the other DCs.
In fact, they wobble every minute. There one minute, gone the next, and back again...
I like the new set... ;-)
I am not seeing any changes with the 64.233.167.147 DC.
Anyone else in similar situation? If so, are you suffering from any type of penalty or filter?
But dont know for sure what it does.
Anyone else getting hit heavy by "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" this afternoon? It is going after tons of strange stuff. Most of it with "noindex,nofollow" tags. I am guessing about 5000 pages requested since about noon.
Lots of activity today, and I dropped in the SERPS in late September.
