Google's Pending September Update

I have seen some changes in geo...

[rishic]

Hello People,

Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.

Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)

-- rishi

[Miop]

[ Anyone else having problems with Oscommerce the last few days? ]

Yes - one site has gone supplemental, the other has just gone altogether.

[taps]

After removing duplicate content via robots.txt we've been losing entries for site:www.oursite.foo in Google constantly over the past two weeks. This is good but there is still a long way to go.

However today our pagecount is still the same as yesterday. Did Google stop cleaning up it's index from our pages? I hope they will move on.

We removed pages instantly via Removal Console. Meanwhile I think that has definitely no effect on the pagecount. To remove pages Googlebot has to crawl by before and find the Disallow command in robots.txt.

[sailorjwd]

Dream coming true..

I'm back to showing up in 7 data centers ... yippie.

[reseller]

sailorjwd

>>Dream coming true..

I'm back to showing up in 7 data centers ... yippie.<<

And may Bacon Polenta be with you ;-)

[NoLimits]

I'm going to have to side with what was mentioned earlier.

I think that Google is optimizing their search results for maximum profit, and not for maximum functionality for the user.

[JuniorOptimizer]

"I think that Google is optimizing their search results for maximum profit, and not for maximum functionality for the user. "

That's their responsibility to their shareholders.

[walkman]

just searched for a common search in my industry: the fist 6 are supplementals. This is not a joke and I even saved the page.

[edited by: walkman at 1:13 pm (utc) on Oct. 15, 2005]

[Rick_M]

Google knows in the long run if their results are not the best quality, then the results are not good for shareholders.

The results are crappy in some sectors not because Google isn't trying, but because of all the blackhat techniques people use, and spam that is generated for search engines and not users.

I became convinced of this when I was having a hard time finding a good resource in a certain niche on google. So I then went to Yahoo and MSN to search that topic - only to find on those search engines the results were filled with completely off topic websites.

While I'm not happy that my main site is ranking poorly right now, I also don't blame Google for the problem. They are still ahead of the other engines in dealing with search engine spam - especially when you consider most of the blackhat techniques are targetted at Google's algorithm.

And yes, I am a Google stockholder.

[aeiouy]

I think that is something people need to be reminded of when they talk about how much better they think Yahoo and MSN are... Most people who are trying to buck the system are squarely focused on google because that is where most of the traffic is... They simply don't have the same result or impact on MSN and Yahoo...

So I don't think it is a valid comparison at this point. Google has a much bigger problem to deal with than MSN or Yahoo.

[mjtaylor]

sites over 5 years

I would not say my site is an authority site, except geographically ... but it was started in 1998 and in the "newer" results it is not where it has been for at least six years (positions 1-2) ... in fact, it can't be found in the first ten pages ...

Another site which is 6 years old also drops from DCs with "newer" results ... down to page 4 ...

From what I can see, none of the newer results make sense or are particularly relevant ... I doubt seriously that we have anything to worry about ... I think the reason the DCs and the default keep switching back to older results is that G's new algo/filter is not achieving what they want.

Just my two bytes,

MJ

[reseller]

Hi Folks

Back to Bacon Polenta Update News ;-)

I`m not going to say that they are "As Solid As A Rock", but these DCs are still showing the same results!

64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

64.233.185.99
64.233.185.104

64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104

So it seems our friends at the plex have decided to leave the above DCs in peace. Maybe just to make the old reseller happy :-)

[SEOTard]

I figured out a year ago that a business model based on whether your site is in the good graces of Google was not going to work.

It is something every webmaster figures out some time or another.

[bweebco]

Well this update has kicked me back up for a lot of major searches, using pure white hat technique so that is good, my major compeitor was using some crappy tricks with odp for generating massive number of pages so seems like they finally took care of him.

[Garya]

Looks like we are back to bad results again for the real estate sector
most of the real estate sites are gone again.

[fathom777]

13 centers showing new results...

[reseller]

fathom777

>>13 centers showing new results...<<

Would you be kind to post few of the said DCs.

[steveb]

Good Lord spare us.

We don't need "new results" from dataceneters. They change every day.

If you see some meaningful change on datacenters that relates to something other than "my site ranks good so I like these" then please share. Otherwise the please spare us what datacenters you like the results on.

[reseller]

steveb

>>We don't need "new results" from dataceneters. They change every day.<<

You are absolutely right.

However, there is no harm for fellow members whos sites dropped out of the index or lost rankings to keep singing each and every day to the DCs ;-)

""Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I´ll be watching you""

[peter andreas]

I still say that the present google results aren't serving the user properly. I know of sites which have beeter information on a search but when you just see amazon and other big mainly US (ie not my country which is irritating) sites which aren't even relevant to the real search its an insult.

There are a lot of babies being thrown out with teh bathwater.

I knwo we all have to suck up to google here in as they may be reading (yes google master, oh of course sir you are absoultely right, you are so funny) but when they serve rubbish results I'm going to say it.

[nippi]

There is no way this update is over.

I'm still getting massively different results in different data centres.

[peter andreas]

PS to my rant. I'm not talking about "money terms" as if you go after these its a hiding to nothing you win you loose and fairplay.No. I mean specific searches for pieces of information which is not about buying stuff, the answers to which I know for one are on our site (as no one else has bothered to add it as it is so specific but I need to put it for completeness) and others sites I use in other fields. But the results at the moment for these searches I'm talking avout just aren't relevant.

[walkman]

I see the begining of a deep crawl, at least in one of my sites. 200+ pages in just 10 minutes or so, and i only have about 1500 pages.

[Garya]

Anyone know when google will start to have relevant search results again.
Its been 1 week with these junk results, only directories, spam and supplemental results showing up.

[Abigail]

so has it occurred to anybody that we may be in for a permanent era of perpetually revolving data bases?

[NoLimits]

haha - this rotational crap is really aggravating.

First G turns 70% of my pages into URL only.

Then this:

About 6 days ago I wrote a VERY short (100 word) snippit about a very large piece of news in my niche.

My site is by NO MEANS an authority on this, and I only wrote a small piece about this because it was off topic. I will admit that the information is NOT great, and my site should rank nowhere near the top for this phrase - or even in the first 20 pages for that matter.

Typically G doesn't make "mistakes" in my favor - but even when they do, I'll still call em' on bogus search results.

I write dedicated, informative, well thought through articles up on site-related topics of very little competition and rank in the pooper - but I throw out a little blurb mainly to just let people know about a news headline and I'm ranking number 3 for a 12M deep two word phrase.

Bah!

[reseller]

Good morning Folks

ONLY to those fellow members who are interested in watching the DCs.

The results of the Dcs which I have listed in my yesterday´s post, for example [64.233.171.99...] , have propagated to around 50% of the DCs I watch.

And of course I know... results on DCs have been changing all the time especially since 22nd Sept 2005 ;-)

[europeforvisitors]

Anyone know when google will start to have relevant search results again.

The results are great for some searches, lousy for others. (Nothing new about that.)

[taps]

I see one site coming back on some DCs that had been banned on Sep, 22nd. It's a small site with ~100 articles where I fixed some dupe content issues. That gives me hope for my bigger site.

[reseller]

taps

>>I see one site coming back on some DCs that had been banned on Sep, 22nd.<<

Which DCs?

Thanks.

[taps]

tsts - always asking for DCs ;-)

Let me see:
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
216.239.63.104
216.239.53.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.105
64.233.167.147
66.102.7.99

Topic of the site are horses. Mainly dressage and showjumping.