Google's Pending September Update

I have seen some changes in geo...

[rishic]

Hello People,

Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.

Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)

-- rishi

[steveb]

No meaningful changes around here. Listed dcs just have a different batch of Supplementals than the other group of dcs. At the same time, some sites lost in one batch aren't lost in the other, although certainly neither group is "better" than the other in that regard.

It's an interesting thing, sort of a seminar in how to screw up in two different ways, to see all the datacenters drowning in Supplementals, but have them include different sets of Supplementals.

[walkman]

I "removed" via Google about 1200 OLD pages already. About 200-300 are still there. Will wait and see, and then submit again. I'm leaving them on excluded one by one on robots.txt (30 kb file so far) so 6 months later, they're still excluded--hopefully.

This update google seems to have a problem with supplementals this update. A very famous site (totally white hat) has some 11000 pages on supplementals (all handwritten pages, and no dupes at all. A search for a sentence yields just that page.)

How do I know? Because I had asked them to remove my link, and they did, but it's still showing on 9 month old cache. Here's to an megacrawl to solve all problems.

Why doesn't Google use the last cached copy? Methinks they're trying to a waybackmachine thing, and that's fine as long as we don't get penalized

[mrtwister]

It seems that my domain.com does not show up when I type it into google. However if I click on Find webpages from domain.com it shows all the pages.. what does this mean.. should I worry or is this normal? Really concerned right now. Thanks for any input.

[johnhh]

Agree with walkman: "problem with supplementals this update" for one of our minor sites we see even current pages marked as supplemental which is a bad omen.

Our main sites seem OK across the various DC I have been looking at +/- a few positions thats all

[BillyS]

66.102.7.104 <- Those results will never stick.
This is the center to watch -> 64.233.167.147

These results on this center now show on 10 of the 39 DCs on McDar. Just three days ago, they were only on 4 centers.

It's now been four days and I now see these results on 14 of 39 centers.

I also see five more DCs transitioning to these results.

[grippo]

I have participated in the sitemap program, ...

Every subdomain I've tried with the sitemap program, has been dropped from 1st. to zillionth position.

[reseller]

Good morning Folks!

Still very stable results on these DCs. The same on other 13 Dcs.

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

Maybe now we can call them the Bacon Polenta Update front troops ;-)

[Garya]

Looks like the same old stuff from before the update.

[walkman]

Google remove works. All, but nine pages are gone. Submited those again and will see. I even sneaked a search and I was actually #1 for domain.com in one center. Two seconds later I was gone of course, but who knows. Been almost a week and could use a miracle.

Anyway, I have a 10 page paper due tomorrow and it's 1.51 am so back to typing. Oh, I'm on page 4 so its gonna be a long night -:)

[reseller]

Garya

>>Looks like the same old stuff from before the update.<<

Not at all. Not within the sector I watch neither within the keyphrases I test .. NEW! ;-)

Btw, how do your site(s) do on above DCs?

[Garya]

They are back on those DC's above in the exact place as before.
Still not showing up on google.com

[reseller]

Garya

>>They are back on those DC's above in the exact place as before.
Still not showing up on google.com<<

GREAT!

Within few days your sites might start to show up on google.com .

[Dayo_UK]

Canonical url problems still not fixed.

Google = still broken.

Annoying as this is probably the biggest attempt they have had - still cant get it right though. GG/MC see my post on your Blog under the Bacon Polenta entry.

[stella_kl]

"Canonical url problems still not fixed."

Yawn....

[Dayo_UK]

>>>>>Yawn

Thanks for your pointless post.

Look at my post in the supporters forum and add something useful to that discussion on Canonical urls if you do not think it is a bug.

Thanks

Dayo

Give us your opinions if you dont think it is true! - Seriously - I would really really really want a counter argument! No-one at Google has provided one - perhaps you can?

[AlexK]

wiseapple:

Anyone else getting hit heavy by "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"

Dayo_UK:

Mozilla Googlebot seems like an evil bot.

Hah! Still cannot decide whether I made the correct decision [webmasterworld.com] (my site dropped like a stone on Sep 22) but, at least, this bot no longer treats my site like a cheerleader at a frat-party.

[reseller]

Still "Solid As A Rock" ;-)

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

[mjtaylor]

Still "Solid As A Rock" ;-)
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

Liking those results ... yes I am.

MJ

[sailorjwd]

My site is showing up on two additional DCs this morning (total of 8) but not the 64.x ones just mentioned

[peter andreas]

A couple of weeks ago I looked at our site and all I saw were the words" Core Project"

I contacted our host and apparently someone ran a malicious script which efffected a few sites for around 24 hours.

We have seem about a 30% drop in traffic and are effected by these phantom google refferrals- so could our site being down when an update was on have something to do with what we are seeing?

[Wizard]

Got many Mozilla Googlebot hits on 12.10 but it happens to me from time to time, often followed with new pages listed in the index.

[mjtaylor]

My default G has just switched to some results that we've been bemoaning lately ... not the switch I hoped to see ... though our "solid as a rock" DCs still show results I prefer ... the current default results are not as bad as they were a couple of days ago when I joined this vigil, though ...

Also, a curious note: one of my sites now shows a new PR5, instead of the old PR4 ... this is a site I started a link program for in the last two months ... so, perhaps a PR update is underway ... a cursory look at other sites shows no change in PR or PR on new pages ...

Anyone else see PR changes? How about Google default results? Changes in DCs this morning?

Cheers, MJ

[reseller]

OMG..my DCs which should be "Solid As A Rock" have changed a little (:(

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

And can see most of the DCs boiling again!

Early morning hour here..

Good night and God bless.

[JuniorOptimizer]

Bouncing between number 5 and number 85 on those data centers for a term. Wow, is that quit a variation.

[zafile]

After many months of wait, a site that uses hidden links is gone from 64.233.167.99 SERPs

Google rocks!

I like this no mercy approach very much.

[Atticus]

Wow, what is life like for those who's entire being is rapped up in seeing one site which they consider to be spam eliminated amidst one of the nuclear holocausts that passes for a Google update these days?

Schadenfreude much?

[zafile]

Actually I've identified 3 sites in the past days.

On October 1st 2005, 2 sites were downgraded. 1 for having a "mirror" site. The other for high keyword optimization.

And today, 1 with hidden links.

It's pretty nice to see Google's new filtering technology at work.

By the way, the 1 with hidden links is gone from main Google as well.

Like we say in Costa Rica, pura vida!

[zafile]

Ah, by the way, in regard to the "nuclear holocausts", Matt Cutts warned about them with plenty time to find the appropriate shelter:

[mattcutts.com...]

:)

[edited by: zafile at 11:37 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2005]

[mjtaylor]

r many months of wait, a site that uses hidden links is gone from 64.233.167.99 SERPs

Well, a site I watch that is full of hidden links *and* hidden text, is merely down a few notches, but still on page 1 ... hardly what I'd call a successful filter, if that's what they're doing ...

Of course, from moment to moment they seem to be applying different filters ...

My two bytes,
MJ

[zafile]

"... a site I watch that is full of hidden links *and* hidden text, is merely down a few notches, but still on page 1 ... hardly what I'd call a successful filter ..."

I hope the Plex guys read the above.

Time to be a bit more aggressive! :)