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Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.
Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)
-- rishi
first I don't do directories, but I doubt that easy, at least compared to other fields. I find it hard to judge others, when many think I have it easy. They just seem to forget that it didn't happen overnight, and that stupid mistake and I have to stay on the edge till it's fixed.
[edited by: walkman at 7:50 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2005]
Perhaps G are just working or trying to get on top of the Canonical url problem.
However, I agree Pessimisum is probably the way to go when looking at G these days.
The Web will be a lot nicer without directories.
I'm looking forward for SERPs free of directories. The Yahoo! directory is more than enough.
2. Supplemental pages. There's this guy with three made for adsense directory that has scrapped /linked me from about 200 pages total. They're supplementals, but I have a feeling...
Sadly Google seems to still not have a handle on the problem. Dumping more and more and more of these Supplementals from 2004 that no longer exists back into the index is NOT helping.
It's been a year and a half since their post Brandy collapse, and two and a half years since the mega meltdown pre-dominic. It's unbelievable that they still have not recovered.
On the seriously bad news front. After the 22nd I put a new page back in the slot of a Supplemental Result. The page was crawled several times. After it showed the new "page moved" cache without a fresh date I put a 301 on it. (I've done this with a dozen pages but this was the first.) The new page/cache showed for just under two weeks, but today it reverted to only showing the ancient Supplemental.
So, it still seems imposible to get rid of a Supplemental. In twelve hours or so after the next Eversux, err Everflux, (just to give it one more chance to see if the 301 will be obeyed) I'll take the 301 off and put the "page moved" page back up, and leave it for three weeks or so, then try to 301 it again.
Hey Googleplex folks, how about using your 20% time to come up with a search engine that ranks pages, not pages from eighteen months ago?
it seems too, that the shortened url is coming up instead of the full. i had redirected all of these urls a LONG time ago, and am not sure why google is resurrecting these and replacing my high ranking full url pages with these, which either rank poorly or not at all.
So do you guys think this is a temporary deal with google, or am i going to have to wait months for a fix?
I checked all the other IPs listed in this post ... and
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
were showing my sites dropped... and for a while, so was my default Google ...
now they are back to "normal" ... sometimes I think I should just sleep through the knob-twisting!
-- T
i checked that google url - 216.239.59.104 - and all of my pages were back again too!
i guess all i can do now is wait.
Do you think that this google url will prevail, or is it just the last one left to drop my pages :(
?
-- Todd
No recovery on that datacenter for any lost site I've been tracking though.
wish me good luck. Just removed almost LOT of them via google's remove service. I HOPE that it is case sensitive, otherwise I'm screwed royally. All my old files are Capitalized so I went ahead with it...
216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.147
64.233.189.104
Some seem like in the middle of an update. If you refresh a few times - you will get different results.
Thanks for listening ... and thanks to all those who know so much more about this than I do ... without this forum, I wouldn't know what DCs were ...
Cheers, MJ
that is, what i tried to report a few weeks ago, but people here said: data centers, yadda yadda... well, i got my IP protocol under control and learned by heart. I know what we are talking about, and I agree: it is a result set of 3 different indeces, beeing rotated.
let's say you got 100 results in set A, 110 in B and 105 in C. You will see an update at least after 36 hours on one of them. For me, it looks like A would grow to 103, B and C stay. 36 hours later, B goes to 111, A and C stay... that goes round and round for 8 month for me on a new domain I watch.
cheers,
p!
Unfortunately this will (likely) accomplish nothing. The URLs aren't removed. They are just hidden, and will reappear again in six months.
However, since things change all the time, perhaps removing URLs micht bring back a September 22 site. Let us know walkman.
IMHO, they're testing the traffic to see which ones bring in the most money.
And the sick part is people actually promote google with adsense!
I am honestly stricken when I hear people say that Google is the most relevant search engine...Laugh, with their Adwords they are! :>
When the ads become the most relavant item on the page...
not if I leave the entries on the main robots.txt--or so says google. Either way, they have a unique extension and a 410 error is genererated when Google tries to get the file.
I just didn't want to wait till they do a major, major crawl (to include suppl. too)
GoogleGuy, can you please clarify the issues raised on message #184, without spilling any trade secrets ;)?
Ignore what it says. Supplementals don't get removed by the URL removal tool. And they don't get removed when googlebot crawls to their nothng-there URL.
Well the sick part is one year ago you wouldn't have 10% clickthrough rate with any adwords ads....Now I see it regulary if not greater. I actually have one ad that gets 27.8% CTR and it's not even the top ad! Another site I run has a general 2 phrase term for something supplies and my CTR on the 2nd page of ads is 7%! What does that tell you? Relevance in Google's SERPS?! I guess it works out though because relevant shoppers are clicking through because their SERP's suck A$$!
I seriously hope this passes. More and more of my sites pages are being converted to URL listings.
I hope the title information gets passed... there is a lot of activity in the serps. I saw lots of different results when searching the different datacenters.
I have lots of time sensitive articles, and this is wiping out months worth of progress aimed at the future.
I am going to keep my calm... continue to write pages - and wait for them to re-appear. I just hope the gravy train is still running when/if the majority of my sites pages re-appear.
Will hold out a bit before breathing a sigh though.
Normally I am Google's biggest fan and pretty much sit on the side lines why all this goes on and wait it out. But today, while searching for a specific Linux command to use for an application I'm working on, after going back 3 pages I gave up and said what the heck and ran the search on MSN.
I can't believe I found EXACTLY what I was looking for under the 3rd listing.
Normally, it is the other way around. I can only hope that whatever filters they are playing with will work their way through and go back to actually giving good results again.
