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Google's Pending September Update

I have seen some changes in geo...

   
2:49 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello People,

Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.

Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)

-- rishi

4:07 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My 3 sites haven't moved a single place in the last 4 weeks on any datacenter i've checked.... checking the data centers now one site has come up from nowhere, another has gone from 1st to 2nd page and the 3rd site has moved a couple of places. 5 out of the 56 data centers affect me.
4:22 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

>>The Dcs which show the different results from my point of view are:-

216.239.59.*
66.102.11.* <<

If its the case, then you are seeing another phase/stage of Update Bacon Polenta ;-) which has already started on 22nd Sept. 2005. Just like what happened during Borboun!

4:26 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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NoLimits

>>Any time you mention an "update" - be prepared for a barrage of posts.<<

Mmmm. Update- y goodness ;-)

5:14 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'm viewing my 30+ fall as a mixed blessing. I am looking at ways to get my site better. I'm very confident that it will come back since its's a useful site and has no dupe problems, so when it does it will be even better.

For example I am testing adwords. Why? because many of my competitors who do very well on the SERPS still have them too. This is an excuse for me to try it. If it works out, I'll keep it, if not, I'm out $2000-$3000.

Meanwhile I'm waiting for Google to process the removals from my other site so the "too many links" thing is no longer an issue.

6:27 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The results which were originally on 66.102.7.104 have now spread to about 15 Dc's . these results absolutely stink for us, how are they for others? especially in the travel industry.
6:31 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seems definetly like a major update...
6:42 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That was the whole point of putting 'update' in the subject. But I think the people here have no idea what an update actually means. There seem to be a general notion of ranking changes as updates :-)

May be they don't know the difference between CODE and DATA. Grow up guys and girls. And stop writing comments and start reading search engine algos and indexing techniques.

-- rishi

7:06 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> Seems definetly like a major update...

it's Columbus day tomorrow. Makes lots of sense, given how Google loves weekend /holiday updates

7:19 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Walkman, I like the way you're thinking because this is exactly the plan I put into action last week.

I'm using this negative (fallen off the cliff for many keywords) as a long term positive to make my site a lot better (CSS design the main thing) and add a tonne more content over the next few months.

WHEN we come back, you KNOW we're going to be STRONGER...

8:18 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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rishic

>>That was the whole point of putting 'update' in the subject. But I think the people here have no idea what an update actually means.<<

Well.. we are here to listen, share and learn.

Would you be kind to enlighten us of your contemporary, comprehensive, extraordinary definition of an update.

And we are all ears ;-)

8:34 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, as always I never cared about any algorithm or any other thing update except for the PR/BL updates.

Wish if they could make it monthly instead of quarterly :)

8:40 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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reseller: tried 66.102.7.104 no changes of any importance here tonight. Google referrals steady currently.

Update definition: when the user sees a significant difference in pages listed from an entered
keyword(s), from last time the user entered these
keywords(s) in a specifc search engine.

Do you still have that "101 things to try when you die on Google" list?

8:58 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>66.102.7.104

On this one - we are out of the box... Stuff that we have not ranked on since Feb. 2nd - we are now back! Looks like filter was removed. Hopefully this is not temporary.

9:02 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi johnhh

>>Do you still have that "101 things to try when you die on Google" list?<<

Happy to oblige ;-)

Google-Updates Survival Kit
msg #:1167
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9:03 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have tons of phantom referrals from Google and all my old rankings are back in at 66.102.7.104. Looks like I'm about to go from the outhouse back to the penthouse! Keep up the excellent work, G-men.
9:25 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yuk. That datacentre is full of year-old very stale cached pages for me. Most are for pages that no longer exist, or were 301'd 6 months ago, dropped out of the SERPs. but then re-appeared 3 or 4 months later.
9:27 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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results on 66.102.7.104 are on a few other dcs as well. My site was initially hit on july 22nd and it appears to be partially back on these dcs.

Just this week, I changed the internal linking scheme and increased unique content across the site, I wonder if I should have just been patient since it appears to be ranking fine off of old versions of the cached page....

9:31 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites that was filtered 9/22 is back on 66.102.7.104. I hope it stays that way. Although I also lost two very important front page spots... October has been a bad month so far so any update can only mean good for me.
9:37 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One other thing. Googlebot has been on a terror since Friday requesting thousands of pages per day.
10:05 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I look at our stats and see refferrals from google I click on them and more often than not we are no where to be seen, even though thats how we were found. There was an auction site number 1 for one keyword so something is happening-just hope we come back. Our site is very content heavy has links to some .govs and edu's and people tell us what a great site we have.
10:34 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, these are the phantoms I referred to. I assume its people on the one 64. datacenter someone in the world getting the results.
11:18 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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More Supplementals being pumped back in. New twist, urls without the trailing slash have previously just been shown as URL only. Now some non-trailing slash URLs are listed as Supplementals, and showing caches from 2004, even though the trailing slash URL is indexed correctly with a cache from yesterday.
11:45 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I apologiose if my posts are seen as garbage but for us its a big deal and definetly an update. There is no thread named .. update- so sorry again.

Are these phantoms results which will be firmed up or old from old data centre results which haven't been updated yet?

One phantom we had was for info on a major desert in the world, the number 1 was a blog by a someone with a surname the same as this major desert, we were no where.( so not very relevant at all Mr google) This is not a "money keyord" purly informational.
It makes me nervous as do we stop what we are doing (basicaly adding infromation on our subject) as it looks like years of work is going down the pan.

12:12 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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seeing some movement in my industry, handicapping/betting on about half of the datacenters. My home page ranks haven't moved but a spot or two but all sub pages of my site have moved down 30 or so results on a ton of terms. May be a new filter my site tripped or who knows, will have to wait and see over the next few days.
12:21 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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seeing all my recip link sites going down, all my one ways going up.

Am not sure if its a recip link filter, a bad links filter, a pr drain filter, a combo or what.

Am now checking all recip links and deleting all links to bad sites, sites that don't link back, etc to minimise the damage

12:22 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Probably a stupid question

But does this mean the PR will be updating sometime soon?

12:33 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> all sub pages of my site have moved down 30 or so results on a ton of terms

it's weird cause I see the same thing (+ I rank #40 or so for domain.com). When I see a referral, now it usually says &start=30 or so, meaning I'm around the 30th. It sucks, and I'm not happy but I've seen this happen plenty of times. If the site is fine, it may take a while (anywhere from days to weeks, but usually they'll come back). Google will fine tune those filters one by one

12:57 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We hardly have any recip links, 99.9 % are one way. We get link requests every day but only link to sites relevant to our content and do not seek links back.
So if its a bad link recip link filter it can not apply to us as.
1:10 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just had a thought- we do have a new recip link to a brand new site in same vein as ours in another country (the UK) we are trying to help out. Has pr of 0 and its purely informational, original and very very well written and researched. Could it be new site recip link filter then? Should I take our link to them off or ask them not to link back to us?
2:29 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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on 66.102.7.104 all penalties have been removed for me.

Company name is in the 1st two slots.

Results back to pre Feb crash.

If these were the true results I'd be a millionaire

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