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Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.
Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)
-- rishi
66.102.7.99 (mc)
66.102.7.104 (mc)
66.102.7.105 (mc)
66.102.7.147 (mc)
Is it moving?
[edited by: tebrino at 3:14 am (utc) on Oct. 10, 2005]
Does your site do links? 3 ways? non recip?
Are the current production results new as well?
Just had a thought- we do have a new recip link to a brand new site in same vein as ours in another country (the UK) we are trying to help out. Has pr of 0 and its purely informational, original and very very well written and researched. Could it be new site recip link filter then? Should I take our link to them off or ask them not to link back to us?
Perhaps the better idea would be to simply
NOT PANIC
If there is a site you think is good quality, and you would link to it anyway for your visitors, by all means link to it (that's the way the web is supposed to work).
It makes me nervous as do we stop what we are doing (basicaly adding infromation on our subject) as it looks like years of work is going down the pan.
Why? Has your site crashed? Has all you info been wiped out? Can people no longer access your site?
For gosh sakes people.....if Google can make or break your traffic, then it's YOUR problem, not theirs. One of our major sites dropped from google on July 16th or so, yet we still receive thousands of visitors per day. Perhaps if some of you would take off your "Google traffic is everything" blinders and realize there is a plethora of OTHER inexpensive and (relatively) easy ways to generate traffic, perhaps these rediculous "this datacenter moved my site one spot" threads would stop dominating the discussions here, and we could focus on the heart of the REAL issue - the lack of a diversified traffic strategy by so many webmasters.
We do need other avenues, agreed and it is our problem and we never say its anyone elses, I'm not blaming Google (or never have), we have no god given right to be in but so far nothing we can find comes close so I don't really want to upset them if I can help it.
The other site we link to is of exceptional quality but we have inadvertently tripped a Google link filter then maybe I have found out from this thread. I just want to understand what we have done wrong (if anything) The recip link has gone and we'll see what happens.
But the ones coming back into the SERPs, at least in my sector, are all good quality pages. Among my sites, most do not get positive, some a couple of spots backwards (due to reappearances of others) and a small site doing very good.
Overall I believe those results look good and would indicate that Google is on the right path, although they may not spread to other DCs as yesterday they were in approximately 10-12 DCs and as of now they are just visible on 66.102.7.x
I seriously doubt if this will work in favor, since it seems algo is discounting recips only on the basis of them being recips (direct or 3-way). Relevancy of links doesn't seem to make any difference.
I find a new job ;) Horrible results..yuck.. (which means they probably will stick...)
>>If the results on 66.102.7.** stick, I guess it will be one of the biggest updates since Florida.<<
The results on the DCs you mentioned show that Google hasnīt been able yet to fix the duplicates problems. I.e Google still canīt differentiate between the originals and duplicated contents. I.e legitimate sites will still risk being dropped while duplicated pages/sites rank high on the serps, UNFORTUNATELY (:(
The results on the DCs you mentioned show that Google hasnīt been able yet to fix the duplicates problems
Reseller, there isn't any attempt at addressing the dupe problem in this dc. It is clearly a "kill the SEO" attempt. Narrow vision of a BIG company?
These results still have not propagated to my default google.com
>>Reseller, there isn't any attempt at addressing the dupe problem in this dc. It is clearly a "kill the SEO" attempt. Narrow vision of a BIG company? <<
Exactly. Just after Allegra 2-3rd Feb 2005, I wrote several posts that Google engineers have been waging undeclared war against SEO, mostly against whitehat SEO.
And see what kind of miserable serps the folks at Google Search Quality Team have ended with. Instead of solving REAL problems as duplicated pages, canonical issue, supplemental results etc.. they ended in killing legitimate sites including education sites.
And they are killing Google Search Engine at daylight. Who is paying those people to kill our beloved Google - The Mother of All search Engines?
Not really moving around the dcs much.
I am also not seeing enough Googlebot activity for my sites to even hope of a recovery yet :( - but those DCs have restored slight faith that Google can sometimes get things right - or a bit better at any rate.
Of course IMO :)
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 8:18 am (utc) on Oct. 10, 2005]
Not so much dead, more like a teenager who has an embarrassing medical condition but refuses to see the doctor. Or something.
Even if this is an update and not a test of certain factors on some DC - it is only at a very very early stage.
Wait it out for a little while.
>>>>>If they stick no one will use google anymore. I can't find any useful sites when I search. Many sites are gone. Yahoo and Msn is much better.
Lol - have you been using Google recently. It has been hard to find useful sites for a while - yet they still seem to retain the traffic.
it is only at a very very early stage
Dayo, it may be in an early stage with few filters to be added/removed. But the intent is pretty clear.
[edited by: McMohan at 8:50 am (utc) on Oct. 10, 2005]
Yep - it does look like they are trying to fix a problem - but they have tried to fix it before and failed.
Lets hope that this one works :) - If they get it right it is more likely to be the return of Google :)
But I have seen many false dawns.
I didn't see many changes on the week of September 22nd.
However, on the weekend of September 30th, I saw some sites with duplicate and high keyword density drop in SERPs.
From what I've read, many of the posts in this thread are related to travel and vacation rental niches.
I will like to see more tremors in my regional niche.
So far, I like very, very much what I've seen.
