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Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.
Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)
-- rishi
From a quick look this morning, a few of the list given above return the old serps, the new serps, I don't know, if it's what I think, it's going to make seo a lot harder. Might even change the business significantly, but this is just preliminary, too early to really tell until this settles down.
Is this now considered over optimization?
When G reviewed my site for Adsense optimization they told me to ad links back to homepage using the logo image at top of page. I had removed 90% of these after May 5th disaster. I've always had a single text link back to home page in top nav bar.
>>Which one is the "#2 set of results" that you say is more likely to propagate:
64.233.171.99 and others (as reseller claims) <<
I have noticed recently that changes on the DCs have started at said DC & Co and then spread to big part of the rest of DCs.
Right now my local time 8.40 pm (UTC/GMT +2) something very dynamic happening on the same DC.
Take a look while its still there.. FACINATING!
[64.233.171.99...]
Enjoy ;-)
[edited by: reseller at 6:42 pm (utc) on Oct. 16, 2005]
Wednesday will be more accurate...
Try it, you'll see.
I thought it was proper to link back to home page from ALL other pages.
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Is this now considered over optimization?
Home >> Category >> Sub-Category >> This-Page
...with each item being a link. If a "Home" link on every page is over optimization, the 95% of all web-sites have just been penalised.
Hey, hang on, maybe... no.. ermm...
It appears nearly all sections of my site have been released from some penalty. I'm getting nearly double # of visitors.
However, my homepage is still under an apparent dup content penalty - G refuses to remove the offending phantom dup page from their cache.
Oddly, they are using my Contacts page in place of the homepage, showing it in the #1 spot with specific content pages #2 spot. Totally absurd since contact page only has a paragraph about contacting us and address and phone number.
if I wasn't clear, I was referring to inbound links, not internal links.
Ohhhh, nevermind :)
not good for me though, now it's all big corporates in my sector...it seems that getting rid of spam has meant getting rid of SEOs and their sites...
>>66.102.7.147 continues to propagate...and looks unstoppable<<
Continue to propagate.. where? on the moon :-)
You want to see a killer DC that is really propagating?
Here it is. Run any query of your choice and see for yourself howmany DCīs result resembel the result of this Bacon Polenta lady. And that what I call "continue to propagate" ;-)
[64.233.171.99...]
I see Janiss already answered my question which I intended to post here.
the results in the DC you mention now are exactly the same as what I have been watching during the last week in 66.102.7.147 (and until today it was only in that DC and sometimes in 3/4 other DCs). This is for the 5 keywords that I follow...
In conclusion the results in "your" DC are now the same as in 66.102.7.147, and IMHO it was 66.102.7.147 the original DC of this update (?). However, may opinion is only based on the 5 keywords that I follow
>>In conclusion the results in "your" DC are now the same as in 66.102.7.147, and IMHO it was 66.102.7.147 the original DC of this update (?). However, may opinion is only based on the 5 keywords that I follow <<
Pls donīt say something like that about the Bacon Polenta lady [64.233.171.99...] which results arenīt the same as 66.102.7.147 at all (:(
I shall sticky you a keyphrase and let you judge for yourself.
If anyone is seeing a September 22 site return, are pages rankings returning to about the same as where they were before they were lost?
I'd be most interested in hearing about non-main pages. The "same" defined as within five spots, so if a page ranked #8 before and is #13, that is the same, but if it is #19 or #33, that is obviously a significant difference and still potentially a lingering problem.
(I haven't seen any positive changes for the Sept22 sites I know about.)
Other sites which also disappeared on the same date, are still nowhere...
would also give a bit of control to the scrappers. Not only could they steal your content but possibly degrade your pages in the serps
theBear, not necessarily, if you simply discount any inbound link value when scrapers etc link to you, and you build links using standard techniques, you wouldn't be penalized per se, you simply wouldn't get any credit for questionable links, if I understand the point being made correctly that is.
In other words, if the trust rank of a site is built by true inbound links, to internal pages - you know the kind, it's the ones you'd make on your own sites if you were linking to a specific page resource on a site - and by other factors, such as the patterns of outbound and inbound links present, what would happen is that you'd simply lose all those thousands, tens of thousands, of inbound link credit to your site.
Imagine it, all those link pages, directories etc, whose primary purpose is to build the inbound link count are simply ignored completely. It would be like a nuclear bomb dropping on tne seo industry, personally, I hope that's what will happen.
Of course, scrapers might become a more effective tool at that point, maybe that's what you are referring to? Seems like the old push pull, dump one thing, boost another.
But the generic link farms etc, those were getting out of hand, really not a useful tool.
[edited by: lizardx at 11:25 pm (utc) on Oct. 16, 2005]
I tend to use the home page as the sites site-map as it is logical to me. Is this the reason our google traffic is down perhaps or one of them?
I'm going to go through the guidlines and just make sure I an scrupriously following them to the letter (which I have always tried to do).
However will this be a waste of time if there are other things going on?
Problem is these pages haven't existed on my site for a long time.
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Does anyone know the preferred method for having Google remove non-existent pages from their index?
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URL removal tool does not work - it only hides the cached pages and they return in 6 months.
I've added them to my robot.txt disallow list but it has had no affect yet.
what is the format of your URL? Is it domain.com/?link or something else?
regular urls:
www.mydomain.com/page-1.htm
this is strange (that it got it again). I would delete it again, via google, add it to robots.txt and 301 it to the main index page. You have 6 months to think of better things :), but defintely delete it again. Does it show a 404 when clicked?
