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Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.
Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)
-- rishi
I haven't, I've seen 'home' a million times, I've seen top image links to / a million times.
But the other stuff, almost every instance of that I've seen is for seo.
I'm not saying this has any meaning, and I'm not saying it's wrong per se, but it has been and continues to be abused by seos, and what seos abuse is what will get targetted at some point, whether it's dupe content, dodgy subdomains, link farms, passing PR, whatever.
I don't think this is a key element in what we're looking at, although it could be an element. Keep in mind it's not me you have to convince, it's google.
Whatever it is, this new thing we're seeing here is spectacular, I was starting to get bored with seo, now it's gotten interesting again, LOL...
[edited by: 2by4 at 5:51 am (utc) on Oct. 12, 2005]
>>Maybe they will erace me from this world.<<
We are deeply shocked hearing the sudden drop of Garya from the index. May "God Bless His Soul" ;-)
Ok. No need to panic. Nothing is settled yet and you could be on top of the serps again, hopefully. Who knows what will happen next during such Bacon Polenta Update?
We are deeply shocked hearing the sudden drop of Garya from the index. May "God Bless His Soul"He is survived by a .com, a .net, a .org and three subdomains that will miss him dearly.;)
Don't worry, GoogleGuy will stroll in here any minute and tell you that everything will be ok as soon as they fold in some new data, stir it up and bake at 375. Everything should settle in a matter of weeks, months...
>>In the technology news this weekend, alarms have sounded regarding a cross-scripting vulnerability some company discovered regarding G's AdWords.<<
I see something about the same published today on threadwatch.org . Very interesting readings!
Sorry if these SERPs were the preferred choice for any of you...better luck next time...this is becoming more and more like gambling in Vegas
PS: even on 66.102.7.** they`re coming and going
[edited by: cristinita at 7:27 am (utc) on Oct. 12, 2005]
But the new results seen on the other dcs - which definetly look more progressive are spreading.
Anyone with Canonical url probs seeing better crawling - I desperately need a better crawl.
bang goes your doorway pages....arghhhhh!
On 64.233.189.** they are back!
How would any of your realistically know what data center is going to spread?
I was thinking the same thing. There is probably only one person on this board that would know...and he ain't talkin.
The current situation reminds me of Allegra..err Bourbon..can't remember which, but there were 2 sets of serps running side by side for some time (weeks), with datacenters bouncing around between the two.
i'm not checking many keywords, but for what i've seen, 64.233.167.99 has good results while 64.233.161.99, for example, has more spam engines.
On the below sites:
64.233.189.104
216.239.53.99
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.63.104
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.147
216.239.63.104
216.239.63.99
I have the feeling they have either lifted filters, lessened penalties, or testing reinclusion requests. We have a site that has not seen daylight since Feb. 2nd. On the above DCs, we are back in the game.
The above DCs are live and serving different minor areas (Earthlink Search, PeoplePC Search, So. Cal?).
From what I am hearing, on the other DCs, people are experiencing the same thing. Sites are coming back from nowhere. (Can someone confirm?)
I guess we will have to wait it out. We can end up with the following:
- Everything reverts - none of the DCs are used.
- One set of DCs wins out.
- Combination of DCs wins out.
- None wins out and a new setting of testing begins.
Hopefully in the end our site will come back. It would be a cruel joke to see it rise and then move back to page 800.
I think they're testing the keywords.
On the below sites:64.233.189.104
216.239.53.99
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.63.104
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.147
216.239.63.104
216.239.63.99
i see a lot of spam from here (here means Italy, btw).
Sites are coming back from nowhere. (Can someone confirm?)
Hip; our site which got lost 16 June is back in those DC's. Actually some of our page came back already about 3 weeks ago, but the page with www/non-www problems are coming back now.
Yep to an extent
Which is stressing me out a bit - as I have non-www problems apparently but I have seen improvements on some dcs where others haven't and others are seeing improvements on others dcs for the same problem where I haven't.
However, it does not look like a fix of the non-www problem - more of a lessening of the effect.
And my site is nowhere near fixed in any dc - just slightly more encouraging in some.
The time line when the Adwords phishing discovery happened and when it hit the news coincide with when the pages got dropped and when the DC's started dancing (9/21 and 10/9). Everyone I spoke to says the pages they lost had Adsense one them, which of course displayed Adwords. Also, as I said in my earlier post, unless the page is PR6 it will not appear on the first few pages of SERPs if it the page has Adsense/Adwords on it. Do a search on power keywords and go through the serps, you wont see adwords on the first few pages unless it has a PR6. In our case, we had an ad in the side nav include, which was included on virtually every page.
Everyone I spoke to says the pages they lost had Adsense one them, which of course displayed Adwords.
I lost rankings on 9/22 and I don't have adsense on any of my pages.
The duplicate content filter theory seemed to make sense in my case. I had some www vs. non-www issues along with some case sensitive url problems that I think contributed.
Its looking bleak..
The non-www is much more likely than your Adwords/Adsense theory.
Lets hope they are working on it.
Dayo
Data is being brought in from these centers and is causing ranking fluctuations on the other centers as the ranking criteria is being applied to the new (old) data. The reason for multiple feeder data centers is for speed
Once they have processed through they may be purging a lot of supplementals.
Just my guess based on the early observations
Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}!^www\.tools4flooring\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*) [tools4flooring.com...] [L,R=301]
This was in my .htaccess to take care of any shortened urls that had been indexed. They are still in there now, and my good high-ranking pages are gone.
I had thought yahoo had a 301 problem, but that was nothing!
I see very promising developments. Any feedback from fellow members whose sites were hit as above?
Thanks a bunch ;-)
Where?
On the DC we have been discussing :( - well it looks a bit messy at the moment reseller.
if those DCs "have been set up as temporary feeder centers", what's the reason for those DCs to show some differences in ranking vs others? SERPs in those DCs are different as if Google had released/applied certain "filters/penalties", according to your opion will those changes expand to other DCs once the feeding process is over, or will the SERPs continue in line with those of the
Sorry if the question does not make sense...
PS: I dissapeared on 9/22, have no redirect problem, never had but do have adsense in all my pages, and I'm back in those DCs mentioned, although I'm the only one back out of the four sites which fell to positions +100 for the keywords that I follow
66.102.7.147 ... would like to believe these are a throw*away* ... not sure what you meant by those being a "throwback," Dayo ... my sites have never had such poor positions.
64.233.167.99 ... I can live with that ...
64.233.161.99 ... looks the same to me ... and very acceptable from my point of view ...
And my current default G search sees an improvement in some more competitive kws ...
In fact, at the moment, I can't find a data center I *don't* like except 66.102.7.147 ... and I am going to stop looking!
Cheers, MJ
