Google's Pending September Update

I have seen some changes in geo...

[rishic]

Hello People,

Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.

Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)

-- rishi

[sailorjwd]

Overnight my site has propagated from 7 DCs to 24 DCs.

I do believe in Google and my Dreams.

ps. And finally #1 & 2 for company name on default Google.com (Maryland).

[edited by: sailorjwd at 11:18 am (utc) on Oct. 16, 2005]

[Steelbank]

Is it just me or does amazon have almost every single keyword topspot in the natural listings?

[McMohan]

Friends, GoogleBoys have started their weekend activity. All the DCs are on a flux. DC followers enjoy. All the best :)

[peter andreas]

No, Iv'e seen this too- don't get me started!

[wiseapple]

We are up on 18 DCs.

Out of the box from Allegra.

Things are starting to move to datacenters outside California (VA, DC). Testing must be complete.

[Maria444]

>>Is it just me or does amazon have almost every single keyword topspot in the natural listings?<<

Yes Steelbank in my industry, before Sept. 22 Amazon was listed 15th-20th and now it's over me, near the top with TWO listings selling books about a subject that visitors are obviously trying to get INFORMATION or PRODUCTS on, NOT to buy a book!

[peter andreas]

sorry if this is off topic but its relevant - why doesn't Google have some more selection buttons

Eg "Are You Looking to Buy Things" "Are You after information" as well as search in the full or regional listings.

There must be far more categouries they could apply and save them the job of applying the filters (and it must be said not always very effectively) in their algos.

[ciscoforum]

How many datacenters does Google have?

[JoeHouse]

Is there a url that someone can forward me that shows all the movements of the DC's all at once.

Showing the dance changes until its complete?

Thanks!

[sailorjwd]

Peter,

I've long requested that they setup categories... such as:

our standard cr*p fake directory listings

our standard listings referencing the site you are looking for

inappropriate shoping . com and amazon cr*p

adsense scraper sites

the info you are really looking for (my site in here) :))

[reseller]

Hi Folks

To all Google DCs lovers ;-)

Please be kind to mention at least ONE specific IP of the DCs when referring in your posts to results that you have watched/noticed on the DCs.

This shall allow the rest of us to follow the recent developements too.

Thanks a bunch!

[sailorjwd]

Reseller,

I don't usually note which DCs I'm on because I am unaware of any important difference between any of them.

Is it possible to categorize DCs based on something?
Like:

Foreign DCs
USA DCs
DCs used for cache copies only
DC not open to public
etc.

The only one I know to care about is my normal default google.com which is 216.239.37.99

Today is the first time I've seen my site showing on my default DC (above). Maryland, USA

[wiseapple]

Here are my favorite - at the current time:

64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147
216.239.37.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.53.99
216.239.59.99
66.102.11.99
66.102.7.99
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
216.239.63.104
216.239.59.104
216.239.53.104
66.102.7.104
216.239.59.105
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.147

Situation: Finally getting out from under the Feb. 2nd (Allegra) blues. Hopefully this will continue.

[JuniorOptimizer]

Yes, those are all great results with excellent relevancy (my site) :)

This pending November update sure rocks!

[Pico_Train]

Loads of movement now! And none of it good for me!

Wait and see yet again.

[jwbond]

JuniorOptimizer, how old is your site?

have you been actively adding links to your site recently?

[JuniorOptimizer]

The site is 8 years old and I'm always adding links. I dropped on 9/22. It now looks like all my old rankings plus 70 pages of new content are all ranking well on that list of IPs just posted.

[nelsonfinch]

Ive been noticing two differant results posting every 2 hours or so.Exactly the same for 3 days now.
We are # 2 in our own url search on all 3 servers on the Google dance tool than #13 on all 3 a few hours later and it has been going back and forth for a few days. The #2 sopt we have had for over a year.
This is annoying and does Google ever tell anyone exactly what they are doing. If one is to TRUELY play by the rules... ANY and all rule changes should be
given in advance? Or am I crazy?

[JuniorOptimizer]

Google doesn't talk to anyone, ever. Unless it's to high-hand some unfortunate.

[fatpeter]

Looks like those d.c's may stick. Top 20 listings in my niche are all pay to be in directories.

[taps]

Junior:
Did you do something to remove dupe content. Was it dupe content on your site at all?

[Crush]

wow, normally I slag off this long thread but man, most data centers showing new serps. This is 100% an update. If some mod does not add it to the front page then he knows nought.Update trustrank.

[nutsandbolts]

I'm rather pleased with what's going on at the moment... all of my sandboxed sites are in finally back after over a year... just that one site which I think must of been the www/without www problem...

On a side note, I am finally seeing good results from creating good sites over the past 3-4 years since I stopped doing crappy spammy affilate junk pages.

Kind of nice to be rewarded with traffic and good search engine results.

No doubt all will change in a few days ;)

Now...if I can just get my artistic writing site back in.....

[reseller]

sailorjwd

>>The only one I know to care about is my normal default google.com which is 216.239.37.99 <<

Fair enough. That will do. And hopefully the good progress you noticed for your site continue ;-)

[reseller]

Hi Folks

This DC represent a group of 23 DCs (Update Bacon Polenta DCs ;-) ) and growing out of 45 DCs Iīm watching.

If you can make it there you will make it anywhere ;-)

[64.233.171.99...]

Good luck to all!

[anttiv]

Very interesting update. Looks like Google has decided to go with the result set #2 (at least for now) that few believed would be used.

I see lots of major sites gone including a few of my own. Luckily one of my newer sites is back after 9/22.

[reseller]

anttiv

>>Very interesting update. Looks like Google has decided to go with the result set #2 (at least for now) that few believed would be used.<<

Once the folk at the plex decide which way to go, you shall see our fellow member GoogleGuy post a weather report. That hasnīt happened, which means no final decision has been taken yet.

[anttiv]

Ok. I'm in an interesting position because if Google uses results #1 my site A is up and site B is down. In the #2 results site A is down and B is up. You could say I'm ready for everything...

[2by4]

'update trustrank'.

Crush, I think you've hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what I was thinking this morning.

"Looks like Google has decided to go with the result set #2 (at least for now) that few believed would be used."

I had little doubt that #2 would be the one used, that's where I saw the most movement against heavy seo tactics, link farms etc.

When I compare sites that have a very high trustrank, all genuine links, almost all to internal pages of site, to sites that have heavy links to the homepage, there is no movement at all in the serps for high trustranked sites, large drops for the sites with heavy link farm backlinks to the root, homepage.

I'll have to look more closely, but this is pretty much what I've been expecting to see for the last 6 months, especially since this summer's preliminary action on link farms etc.

When I look at the search terms that have dropped, and if I try to be somewhat objective, the pages that have dropped were not in fact the best choices for that search.

Going to be a busy week ahead I think...

[cristinita]

Which one is the "#2 set of results" that you say is more likely to propagate:

64.233.171.99 and others (as reseller claims)

or

216.239.53.99 and 66.102.7.99 and others

and why?

thx