Google's Pending September Update

I have seen some changes in geo...

[rishic]

Hello People,

Have been waiting for google's pending update but didn't get any on that. From last two days I have noticed extreme changes in search results for same google domain (like .com or .de or .nl etc.) with different interface language selected (like hl=de or hl=en or hl=nl). When you change the interface language the whole bunch of results are different.

Is this the actual update this time? Enabling the geo centric data which google wanted to implement for better localization? If yes (and if someone else is also seeing this change) then may be we can all identify the parameters of this new change, like language, servers in geographical locations or extensions (.de, .nl etc.)

-- rishi

[cristinita]

too many SEOs happy about 66.102.7.104, then it is likely that it won't spread...although IMHO it shows the best results...neutral impact for me though..brings back a really top quality site above me and one crappy one, currently at #2 vanishes

[Dayo_UK]

66.102.7.104

winter

216.239.59.103

Spring (IE Hope and maybe new life breathed into site) ;)

[reseller]

rishic

>>The changes which people keep talking about are changes in SERPs which are not directly related to an update, although when an update happens SERPs also change.<<

But you forgot to mention how do you identify an update (algo changes) when it takes place ;-)

Yes thanks!

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>216.239.59.103

Spring (IE Hope and maybe new life breathed into site) ;)<<

Pssssssst

If you keep on saying that, the engineers will kill it at once.

Better to post that 216.239.59.103 has the worst serps you have ever seen. Then they shall keep it for sure ;-)

[sailorjwd]

For me it has been ground hog day every day since Feb 2.

Update smupdate... 'anything different is good'

[reseller]

sailorjwd

>>For me it has been ground hog day every day since Feb 2.<<

2nd-3rd Feb. was a sad day for my site too. Recovered gradually since. Got another killing hit on 22nd July. At present recovering gradually again.

BTW, have you since filed a reinclusion request?

[reseller]

Hi Folks

Honestly I still think that first phase/stage of Update Bacon Polenta has already started on 22nd Sept. Since then we have been just witnessing the remaining phases/stages. just like Borboun, you know ;-)

[Armi]

On 64.233.189.104 nothing is older than 11-27-04!

On the other Datacenters there are still suplemental results until February 2004.

My project has old Duplicate Content, non-www problem etc.! On 64.233.189.104 these URLs are gone and ->
No filter anymore!

[McMohan]

Just get a feeling it is going to be 66.102.7.** Many sites that "try to influence ranks" including whitehats have gone.
The SERPs are full of sub-pages of heavyweight sites that have a oblique reference to the search term are dominating, while many smaller, yet more relevant sites have vanished. All these make searching in Google less pleasurable.

[Dayo_UK]

>>>On 64.233.189.104 nothing is older than 11-27-04!

I do see them slightly older than that date - not back to Feb 04 though

Armi - when did you correct your non-www old duplicate content probs.

Did not correct mine until March - so perhaps lots of supplementals need to go for me until I see improvements.

[peter andreas]

"while many smaller, yet more relevant sites have vanished"

Thats us!

Pointing to a directory (which Iv'e seen a lot of now) is like pointing to a library rather than a book in the library

[Armi]

"Armi - when did you correct your non-www old duplicate content probs"

On april 2004! But I have a big portal with hundred thousands of this urls. Google didnīt delete this urls till now! But on this Datacenters they are gone....

[Dayo_UK]

>>>On april 2004!

Blimey - hopefully if G are reading this they will understand that the supplementals are causing problems.

I dont want to wait until October next year! - A good crawl would be nice too - Armi - did you get a good crawl recently too?

[JuniorOptimizer]

People PCs search (powered by Google) is showing the 64. data now.

[Dayo_UK]

66.249.85.104 has gone the way of 216.239.59.*
66.102.11.* and 64.233.167.* :)

[Armi]

66.102.7.147
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.99
216.239.53.104
64.233.189.104

looks good for me! (no old data before November)

[anttiv]

66.102.7.104 - out of the Sept 22 filter but my other sites have dropped.
216.239.59.103 - not a big change compared to last week.

[wiseapple]

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66.102.7.147
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.99
216.239.53.104
64.233.189.104
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Does anyone know who these dc's are serving? I know they are live somewhere in the world. We are getting new refs. I think one of them is for the Santa Clara area.

[JuniorOptimizer]

search.peoplepc.com must be one of them. Check your rankings on there.

[nutsandbolts]

Seeing tons of supplemental pages on 66.102.7.x - cannot believe that is anything like the final index...

[JuniorOptimizer]

66.102.7.147
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.99
216.239.53.104
64.233.189.104
===============

Strangely, the new (old) results are on all of these except 216.239.53.104 which does not have them for me.

[dirty_marra]

JuniorOptimizer, I'm finding exactly the same....but still no shift in the serps on google.co.uk.

Marra

[McMohan]

Strangely, the new (old) results are on all of these except 216.239.53.104 which does not have them for me

216.239.53.104 is different from 66.102.7.** and 64.233.189.104 results. The latter 2 Dcs show such SERPs, that I shudder to think may eventually hold.

[Garya]

All my sites are gone except 2
18 in limbo real estate results have gone down the tube.
What to do? still #1 on yahoo and MSN

[Garya]

It looks like they deleted most of the small real estate companies.
The results are showing mostly national companies, directories, and large spam companies. all the little guys are gone.

[walkman]

> All my sites are gone

gone as in totally deleted from Google, or gone down on SERPS?

[CathyM]

The results on 64.233.189.104 bring back my site to pre Sept 22 rankings except for a few phrases and their associated pages. My speculation is that the algo filter from 9/22 was intended to catch some parameters on a site but inadvertently penalized the whole site instead (by penalize, I mean lowered the entire sites rankings).

The 64.233.189.104 type results have been showing consistently for me on google.com since last night (I'm in California). I hope it sticks.

[Garya]

17 show up when you search by domain name.
1 shows up for one keyword no competition.
2 of my sites with no reciprocal links are still #1 and 7
all the rest are gone all had reciprocal links only.

[sailorjwd]

Looking at those DCs with new/different results...

I still see all my bad supplemental pages including a phantom dup of my homepage and a canonical problem with it too...

But the homepage and several other pages are ranking well - seems like they turned off one of the penalty switches on those DCs. With my luck it was by accident and some freckle-faced kid will be brought into the office for a tongue lashing in a few minutes.

[zafile]

In regard to Garya's niche, I've seen some directories that charge per link go down in SERPs.

This is pretty, pretty good.

It was pretty bad when I had to pay to a "farm" directory $100 plus per year for an enhanced listing. These directory guys were getting pretty rich for doing nothing.

Well, directory guys, I hope your easy life ends soon. In the meantime, do something useful, get a copy of the book "Who moved my cheese?".