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Update Saga. Part 6

         

selomelo

6:25 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued from:
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The same down-and-on problem here in Turkey.
But j3 goes on and off. No steady results. At least three different sets:

216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks)
64.233.161.104 (still J2)
64.233.179.104 (J3)

reseller

12:30 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

>>Steveb

What type of partial fix did you see? - It happened at my nightime or I was offline - I remember in the thread people saying it is here and then gone again - when I was offline. <<

I recall it when steveb posted his observations. One of them happened at early morning (around 6 am. GMT+1) hours my local time.

Problem we don't have search facility at present, otherwise I would have found steveb's post(s) (:(

bekyed

12:41 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes Miop.

I can totally agree with you dude.

We have had to lose staff over this, it just is not fair to honest webmasters at all.
Good luck my friend.

Bek.

tigger

12:50 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well you know the answer Wayne, get your black hat out of the cupboard

BillyS

12:59 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What is Googlebot activity like for your site at the moment (Exclude Mozilla Googlebot)? Not much activity at this end - just seems to be scratching the surface.

I've got about 150 URL only (out of 1,000 pages or 10,400 pages by Google's count). Spidering has been dismal lately. For the month 1,800 pages. Normally, that number is closer to 5,000 - 7,000. Over the last two week, it's been 10 per day - at most.

I also submitted a google sitemap - doesn't seem to have any affect at all. This is a PR 5 website.

helleborine

2:17 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my sector, there are still tremors and aftershocks being felt. Everflux, or late Jagger?

taps

2:27 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Had 11.000 views from Googlebot yesterday. Lot of activity - no result so far. Still penalized and waiting to return. For nine weeks now we are dumped - with > 3000 unique, self written articles.

Hooray for unique content :-(

[edit]typo[/edit]

[edited by: taps at 2:44 pm (utc) on Nov. 29, 2005]

Pico_Train

2:29 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi helleborine,

Yes there does seem to be the odd bit of movement/action. It's never much or that significant.

How is you site doing now since June?

g1smd

3:09 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Right. I am back after a few weeks away.

For supplemental result and ancient cache problems (see Post#400 [webmasterworld.com] for more), I see just one site whose supplemental result counts were halved, but no other fixes on any of the other sites (almost 100 sites) that I watch for changes.

That is no change in the last 4 months. At all.

bekyed

3:42 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Too right Tigger.
Hope it still fits after so many years lol!

Wayne.

King of all Sales

4:13 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Mike Dammann-

To answer your question, there are quite a few sites ahead of mine that are really bad! I'm not talking about a question of degrees - I'm talking about sites that shouldn't be ranking anywhere near the top are, nevertheless, there.

For example, for one fairly competitive keyword phrase (15 mil), the first page contains one site that is so amateurish, my 11-year-old could do better. Another is involved in a link network that has completely gamed Google. Google has given this site a PR 6 and reports 1700+ backlinks and almost all of them are bogus links because they are part of the network. If you look for the link on any one of these sites, you won't find it because they're not there!

And yet another site employs every trick available including hidden text. This site is interesting because it has only about 40 backlinks reported but it has a "resources" page that has 2 or 3 hundred links with short descriptions (in very small font) to very on topic sites, none of which link back to this site. They are continually adding to this page and it appears to be helping.

If the key to ranking better in Google was really about building a better site, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

mickfrancis

4:49 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On reading this thread it seems that reciprocal linking is dead with Google. Is it advisable to remove these from my site?

[edited by: mickfrancis at 4:51 pm (utc) on Nov. 29, 2005]

simonmc

4:52 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If reciprocal linking was dead as you think it is then you would not find any sites in the top 10 for search terms that have reciprocal links.

That is just not the case. The FACT is that sites relying on reciprocal links are still performing well.

Reciprocal linking is alive and well.

caveman

5:18 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I seem to have mistakenly trashed my bookmark for the so-called experimental DC. (Actually, I think more than one has been mentioned, but I only had one bookmarked.) Anyone have it/them handy? Preferably with confirmation from a GG post(s) or Matt blog post(s)?

TIA,
caveman

colin_h

5:58 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well said King of all Sales,

I've taken to goading Google with every 'Amateurish' spammer that I find. Pointing out [using the report page] that if they can't catch & stop this level of cheating, what hope do they have of being taken seriously.

A particular site that is ranked massively actually has a section entitled <!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="hidden_keywords" -->, followed by 22 repeats of the title text :-o

I mean ... if they can't find that, what they heck are they playing at. Maybe it's just flux, but in my opinion this has been going on too long now.

OOOOOOOOOh I really need my holiday ;-)

reseller

8:40 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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caveman

>>I seem to have mistakenly trashed my bookmark for the so-called experimental DC. (Actually, I think more than one has been mentioned, but I only had one bookmarked.) Anyone have it/them handy? Preferably with confirmation from a GG post(s) or Matt blog post(s)?<<

I don't recall GG or Matt mentioning previously "experimental DC" or even "test DC" before Matt posted for few days ago on his blog about test DC. However, both talked about the DC where we can see J1,J2 and J3 on.
For example here is what GG mentioned on 5th Nov 2005:

"..... It looks like people probably noticed Jagger3 changes at 66.102.9.104, starting yesterday. I believe that data center includes Jagger1, Jagger2, and Jagger3.""

msg #:7
[webmasterworld.com...]

I hope this help ;-)

steveb

9:08 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That's not what he is talking about. The DC has been mentioned several times, but I didn't bookmark it either. **.233.***.*** something like that.

Dayo, some lost pages returned to proper rankings. Not a lot, and not whole domains, but some pages.

g1smd

9:10 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No, there is another DC that GoogleGuy or Matt Cutts says was "over there, out of the way" sort of "experimental" and could be ignored. That post was several weeks ago.

I think it had 243 or 247 in the IP somewhere...

Abigail

9:18 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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wow - from 48,000 to 976 pages in 24 hrs - I don't know whether to laugh or to cry - or just tilt......

g1smd

9:30 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If that was the change for the supplemental results from January 2004 that are cluttering the index from where I am looking, then I would be over the Moon.

Abigail

9:33 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not - only had about 6 supplemental out of the whole lot.

icarus

9:38 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The "experimental" DC referred to a couple of weeks back was:

64.233.179.99

reseller

9:44 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Matt mentioned at one point a DC which we might see J3 on too:

216.239.51.104

Its very difficult to research for info on previous posts without the good old google search facility.

texasville

10:09 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The 'experimental" seems to just show what's on all the rest of the dc's now.

caveman

10:13 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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icarus, thanks, that was the first one, for sure. ;-)

I have it in mind a second was mentioned also. Does anyone recall it, or know of it?

MrSpeed

11:56 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone seeing a difference in the link: command for the DC's? My site shows up on half of the DC's and I hope the trend is upwards.

Kangol

12:00 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I just did a travel related search and Google gave me a new box with dates and links to "Search: Expedia Hotwire Orbitz Priceline"

Is G going into affiliate programs?:)

powerofeyes

1:41 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..The "experimental" DC referred to a couple of weeks back was:
64.233.179.99

Yes, that was the experimental datacenter, i even appreciated the results being the best I had ever seen,

Currently this datacenter dont have test data which it used to have, It seem to have jagger 3 data, we can expect the test data to come live in this datacenter,

I never saw any supplement results when the test data was live, Now i see supplements in this DC, so we can probably expect new data to come live soon in this DC,

2by4

2:23 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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caveman, is this the one:

64.233.167.104

headache1987

3:57 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes but were is the freaking magic server - you know the know where I get my hard earned white hat rankings back?

edited to add;

MY lord you found it....

I am number ONE and TWO on this one: 64.233.179.99

I sent it to my boss, maybe he'll be somewhat happier tomorrow wooo hooo

Okay, now if plain old google would do that I'd be set!

caveman

5:07 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2by4, well done. Thanks. ;-)
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