Update Saga. Part 6

[selomelo]

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The same down-and-on problem here in Turkey.
But j3 goes on and off. No steady results. At least three different sets:

216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks)
64.233.161.104 (still J2)
64.233.179.104 (J3)

[ssjxxx]

Stateless:

I'm not seeing pre-Jagger results for my queries on that DC, but they are definitely a bit older than some other DCs' results. Something like 2-3days to a week older probably.

-S

[ssjxxx]

selomelo:

216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks)

Those are the best SERPs that I have seen in a while. :)

-S

[outland88]

>216.239.63.104 (I think with additional tweaks<)

I'm doing half-way decent on that one so they'll probably have to trash it.

[Kangol]

What do you think about [72.14.203.104?...]
This is what G is serving me.

[steveb]

"I'm seeing home pages out rank more relevant inner pages quite frequently."

This seems to be a sympton of one of the major problems with the update that they haven't solved yet. In some caces I have an index page ranking where the interior page should be, but ranked higher than the interior page would rank... as if say the interior page would rank #7, the main page ranks #2, like it started at #7 but then because it has higher pagerank and other algo stuff, it ends up ranking #2, even though it has no business ranking in the top ten at all.

I find this most common with pages still suffering from Sept22 problems, but it's also happening with pages that appear to be (mostly) healthy.

[reseller]

lasko

>>We made some slight adjustments to a site last month this being meta tags and titles, the whole web site is clean and has been doing well for the past 12 months however this update the site has disappeared except for 1 phrase.

its seems everytime we make a slight change the web site disappears for a few weeks then returns. <<

I had started a whole thread about the same. changing meta tags and titles for several pages at the same time mightbe considered Gaming Google and accordingly affect the site rankings.

Site dropped due to "Gaming Google"
Are you gaming Google without being aware of that?

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[ssjxxx]

Kangol:

What do you think about [72.14.203.104?...]
This is what G is serving me.

The SERPs here appear to be the worst that I have seen in a while. Looks like J1 or J2, but who knows. We really need Matt or GG to give us an update here.

-S

[like2golf]

What do you think about [72.14.203.104?...]
This is what G is serving me.

In my sector, these appear to be J3.

[ssjxxx]

In my sector, these appear to be J3.

I think that G is blending J2 & J3 at the various DCs. Different sectors will see different SERP quality until this is finished. We seriously need a weather report.

-S

[reseller]

>>What do you think about [72.14.203.104?...] <<

Look like Jagger3, and I like it ;-)

[stateless]

>>Look like Jagger3, and I like it ;-) <<

I agree. If we go back to what Matt initially stated, the serever mentions is the same as both 66.102.9.104 and 66.102.7.104 , so I would suggest that these are jagger 3 results.

[Kangol]

It keeps changing index size and I rank somewhat better then 66.102.09.10.

Still the results served Thursday in the Post J3 were way better for me.

[lee_sufc]

on [72.14.203.104...] each time i refresh i get different results - one distinctly better than the other

[ssjxxx]

on [72.14.203.104...] each time i refresh i get different results - one distinctly better than the other

I'm seeing a lot of movement there as well.

-S

[SiteTutor]

Not sure if this is the proper place for this topic except that I am sure the change is a result of Jagger.

My question is that before jagger, I had PR of 5 on the home page of the website and then PR 4 of the lower pages etc....

Now I have PR of 5 on the home page and none of the other pages have any PR. Any ideas what is causing this. The site is <Sorry, no personal URLs. See Terms of Service [webmasterworld.com]> if anyone cares to comment.

Thanks,

[edited by: tedster at 5:36 am (utc) on Nov. 25, 2005]

[PhraSEOlogy]

if anyone cares to comment.

You are not suppose to drop URLs here (see TOS).

[giggle]

Maybe you're not giving Google enough time to populate the tool bar.

[edited by: tedster at 5:37 am (utc) on Nov. 25, 2005]

[annej]

My question is that before jagger, I had PR of 5 on the home page of the website and then PR 4 of the lower pages etc....

Jagger did not cause the change in PR. It was simply updated about then. It is updated every three months or so. Actually you had probably had the lesser PR for a while. Why I don't know but it appears to me that PR was dampened all over.

[CrackSeo]

For my sites, the dropped PR is back to pre-jagger PR.

Cached version which was different from Fresh Crawl is also updated.

Many changes but the results still look very bad at google.com(72.14.207.99)

[ssjxxx]

CrackSeo:

For my sites, the dropped PR is back to pre-jagger PR.

I'm still seeing PR from the recent dump. All is looking the same on the PR front for all of my sites. I'm seeing PR on pages that were created as recently as early October.

-S

[followgreg]

Currently the following DC will return pre-jagger PR to your toolbar from time to time:

216.239.53.104
216.239.53.99

[mgpapas]

I noticed something strange yesterday. It may not be strange to the people on webmasterworld but it was to me. My site dropped out of the top 10 for a couple of keyword phrases.... not on all google DC's though, I noticed I was still getting some hits from page one so I checked different ones and found that on many I've dropped out of the top ten but they are using a page cache from November 9 on the one that is using the November 20 cache I've actually moved up a couple of spots..... another strange thing is that it's the datacenters which people on here generally say are a forcast of the things to come that is using the old cache.

So the questions I have are:
Has anyone else had this problem?
Will it fix itself eventually? (if anyone knows)
When it's using the more recent cache will it move back up or stay where it's dropped too.

Since I keep track of my competition quite closely I noticed big changes there as well and I've haven't seen a shakeup this big since 20-21 september and am wondering if it's just a big blip in my niche or another major change.

[ssjxxx]

Has anyone else had this problem?

Yes. There has been a lot of movement ("flux") in the SERPs lately. We have been told to expect this.

Will it fix itself eventually? (if anyone knows)

Yes, things will settle down a bit soon.

When it's using the more recent cache will it move back up or stay where it's dropped too.

That depends on where the new algo puts you in the SERPs. There are no guarantees here.

-S

[minnapple]

I think we are now in the POST Jagger era.
The fluxes are just a zig Jag from now on.

[reseller]

Good morning Folks

It is wonderful to be alive, otherwise how could any of us have enjoyed Jagger update :-)

I mightbe seeing Jagger3 all over of the place and the DCs are dancing in FLUX.

And trust me there are many strange things might happen during such FLUX. Keep your eyes open and watch out ;-)

[steveb]

The minor healing on 64.233.167.99 has disappeared after one day again. Once again it appears the main pool of corrupted will kill anything added to it that isn't corrupted.

[lee_sufc]

I notice the few DCs that were showing some decent changes have gone AGAIN! This happened last week, altough then, the results actually showed on Google.co.uk for one day!

I give up...

[caveman]

> 64.233.167.99

yeah, saw the same thing. But maybe they just tucked that set away for a while? The SERP's showing there now look just like the other stuff with a tiny bit of flux. Too tired to check Supps etc

The so called experimental stuff seemed to be the only set of SERP's that began to address the many negative aspects of what's been going on lately. :/

[edited by: caveman at 7:50 am (utc) on Nov. 22, 2005]

[incrediBILL]

I finally see Jagger 3 on the main Google.com for the first time and it's sweet.

Everything is back to normal, so far...