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Why chuckle?
Granted everything has been very useful in this jagger thread, but it's funny to see everyone (myself included) predicting the results. "
Although I don't post my predictions I do make them! I think its normal for webmasters to speculate a little.
Matt said"November 3, 2005 @ 1:39 pm
Let’s see. Multiple data centers are now showing Jagger2, but I don’t think every data center is. I believe Jagger2 is at the cluster of data centers that includes 66.102.9.104.
In which place says Matt that?
I still don't think these are Jagger3 :-)
Either way I'm happy with any of the result sets... so can we pick one please and get on with our lives LOL!
I just can not help but laugh. No mal intent meant to anyone.
:)
Matt says it here [mattcutts.com ]
However, at this point, I have no idea if it will stick, but I think it might because its coming across the same on so many DC's.
I am going to assume this is J2 flux. Is that what the general concensus is?
Thanks!
J3 isn't anywhere yet and I'm not going to post again until it starts either (honest).
>>Yes this must be uppermost on their minds, they must be thinking hard of ways to try and prove you wrong....perhaps they will delay the update or maybe even cancel?! <<
Thanks. Very "intelligent" conclusion :-)
No, not to prove me wrong, but to say that Jagger3 update hasn´t started before they announce it. And not as many of us have already noticed it yesterday on the said 3 Dcs.
These are 100% pre-Jagger results which won't stay long.
The last DC you mention has been jumpimg all over the place until recently, and now its settling, so I respect your opinion, but I disagree.
These are 100% pre-Jagger results which won't stay long."
Not in my market. Not even close. Other than number 1, no other website in the top 10 on those DCs held the same position pre-jagger. The former number 3 site is 16. The current number 2 was 9. My site went from 21 to 11. Those results look nothing like pre-jagger for my market.
It's really clear these are pre-Jagger results.... but you will see it, jus a little more patience.
>>216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
It's really clear these are pre-Jagger results.<<
Would you be kind to elaborate more on that?
Thanks!
Matt posted earlier:
"there are some Jagger1-related changes going on at 66.102.7.104"
The results were the same when he posted.
I'm not one of the people saying this is jagger3. Just don't understand how these can be pre-jagger results when the results aren't the same as the results pre-jagger.
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
It's really clear these are pre-Jagger results.... but you will see it, jus a little more patience.
It's just partly true, at least in my sector.
Though results are really close to pre-Jagger, a few sites, which dropped in with Jagger1, still appear among SERPs on these DCs. I just can't figure out why just a few of them..
Anyway, my site is getting closer and closer to the top with every Jagger..
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
It's really clear these are pre-Jagger results.... but you will see it, jus a little more patience.
I dont really study the IP's and I think its pre-mature to speculate on the way they behave and its time spent not learning much or acheiveing anything!
Please, all those who do not believe Jagger3 has really started, you are ruining the fun -- never mind Jagger2 is only fully visible on 22 DCs still -- it *must* be Jagger3 on the rest that are still updating, cause since they have not yet shown Jagger2 completely, the guys at Google just skipped right over and started Jagger3 on them to confuse us.
Justin
Either that or my niche is extremely stable, and you can see two distinct sets of results, one set on 22 DCs and another on the rest, and the ones, people keep claiming are Jagger3 have not yet shown Jagger2 results.
Throughout Jagger1 we progressively disappeared from each group of DCs. After the first week we were in the 400-plus region for all the key phrases I monitor, having previously been in the top 20 for all.
Over the past 2 years I have closely monitored all sites that compete with us, and they are all back on these DCs; including us! The results are very slightly different, but I suspect this is a result of the new data (indexed page increase) that was collected just prior to the update.
However much I would love this to be true, I think it's just too much to hope for -- Just my 5c worth ;)
Am I missing something here? I assume Reseller's self appointed role as 'master of predictions' is all a bit of a joke and in reality does not bare scrutiny. I'm sure he is the first to agree. I doubt Google takes a blind bit of notice of what we say, think or do, we are generally irratating low life in their eyes.
The new DC results as pointed out by other members have exciting potential and as they are closer to what was shown pre Jagger, offer some hope for those who have fallen. Others don't want to believe this. So be it. Lets not pretend Google cares a fig what we think. Matt and GG post to inflate their ego's, like many others here, and their posts are generally under the pretence of "being helpful" but over the years we have come to know they are usually as inaccurate as everybody else.
Does anyone have an opinion on this one? Results look totally different from jagger2 so far, plus also different to receptional's potential jagger3.
Luke
Did you think I was serious!? :-)
This also looks pre-jagger to me. I think somethings gone horribly wrong and they are starting the update all over again :P
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
Defo not pre jagger in my market!
Lets not pretend Google cares a fig what we think.
But there is a peeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrson behind every website.. :(
[edited by: Ankhenaton at 11:15 am (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]
This DC is definitely Jagger 3.
