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>>>This DC is definitely Jagger 3.
Lol - I assume that was a joke as everyone is saying such and such DC is jagger3.
That DC has been switching Jagger2 on and off for a while. (IMO - of course ;))
Luke
PS Also dong some business stuff out there, so anyone from Sydney or Melbourne that fancies meeting up get in touch.
Matt Said,
November 4, 2005 @ 2:41 am
sid, Sept 22nd was not a part of Jagger.
You wish.... but I think you are wrong.
Not part of Jagger and therefore not addressed by Jagger3?
or a prejagger problem to be fixed as part of the Jagger updates..
I hope the latter.
[edited by: cleanup at 11:41 am (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]
Site command is showing home page listed 1st for first time but it is the non-www version which is the wrong one.
Seems almost all supplementals are back in the site command but most all are listed last. So, the only thing positive is they are sorting the site command results properly.
The pagecount of my main site did not change either.
Ok, waiting for the storm...
I don't think anything that happens in Jagger will change what happened on Sept 22nd.
Identifying the causes of the 22nd changes have made very difficult for us with the current update.
Yesterday gave me some hope though. In a previous post i said I'd compiled a spreadsheet outlining page structure for my site. eg pics have alt tags y or n, page title kw's etc. Anyway I had found a pattern but a couple of the sample pages I'd chosen were throwing the pattern out, yesterday those pages returned to the serps and the pattern is now looking better.
I must add that whatever happened on sept 22nd NEVER took down my whole site, it definately isn't a site wide penalty. I still come no.1 for several kw's and phrases.
I renamed all my page titles, removed recent links and some other stuff but no improvement to talk about. still 16k a day down. I decided to work on other stuff just now until jagger settles as other jagger changes may require additional reworking of pages. I am confident I will get my site back to where it was before Xmas.
added: I believe the sept 22 problem is in regard to repititious kw's & kw phrases in title, description, url and on page.
These are the J2 results, same ones as the results Matt Cutts on his blog pointed out as J2. So, these are the closest to what you can expect with J3.
I dropped on 9/22 and re-emerged on 10/17. What changed? More links with diverse anchor text from diverse Ip's. I also ran XENU link checker and fixed 10 mangled pages I was linking to that were supplementals.
This must be as close as anyone has got to the truth!
really nice one... :-)
216.239.37.104;66.102.7.99;216.239.57.99 all show same results for me.
These datacentres are all well and good for showing the likely google.com results but is there anyway to skew for google.co.uk?
The latest datacentres are better for me with my.com domain, so fingers crossed.
These results have changed back to what looks like jagger1 since I posted it this am. Let the fun and games continue...
J2 is still here. Just think, if we end up losing all with this update, at least we will be able to put our experience as a DataCenter Watcher on our resumes when we go out job hunting. Good DC watchers are hard to come by!
That surprises me not.
It has been obvious that G has been having all sorts of challenges. I think tech's tweaks have gone haywire. It's one thing to test a new algo in house ... and, quite another to unleash it.
What we have observed, IMO, is G unleashing new algos for a live test and retracting them once they found the algo's simply are not accomplishing everything they want to accomplish.
Tweak here to fix that, and something over there goes bad. Fix something over there, then back here goes haywire.
One thing about algos ... you can not satisfy everyone all the time. There is a happy balance somewhere and G is trying to find it.
So far, it seems that balance has escaped them.
I just follow Spanish keywords, so if anybody can chech his/her sector would be appreciated
The effects for me may end up to be devastating...
Thanks
Not really - No-one guaranteed Wednesday.
As I am sure you are aware, the point of that post was to reiterrate the fact that Jagger 3 is not showing anywhere, just to hit back at all the speculation :-)
<added>I've also noticed over the past 2 weeks that when I go into my stats and click on a Google referrer page link, the page that my logs say was hit is often on a completely different Google results page - higher or lower - or sometimes not visible anywhere.</added>
[edited by: Patrick_Taylor at 2:11 pm (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]
I'm seeing a lot more than that. Not alway major changes, but certainly for my site. Just checked a bunch of DCs and for my main search term my site was, 11, 14, 23, 33, 53, 64, 93, and 95 depending on the DC. I'm seeing a good deal of flux. Maybe the people seeing the two or three result sets are just looking top 10?
Should that be a joke, or what?
And who is that Mr. Matt "X-SEO" Paines whom hiding behind his blog? another retired SEO :-)
Matt! you want to say something, come here and lets discuss it.
Thanks!
Oh my virgin eyes! Reseller is picking a fight! I knew he had it in him ;)
One thing that is consistent in all my research on this update is that sites that rely heavily on internal linking schemas with next to nothing inbound links will suffer under the Jagger knife. In other words, if G sees you have a great site with no inbound links, there is a good chance that site will get a penalty. Seems kind of logical I would think. At some point someone would link to that site via natural linking, right? IF the general public can see it or navigate to it in the first place.
Another observation that KW stuffing continues to be a problem for G, which is why they need us to report it. This one will be interesting to see G solve.
[edited by: Yippee at 2:33 pm (utc) on Nov. 4, 2005]
Why does he need to come here? Seems rather demanding to me. If you wish to respond to his comments, then contact him directly or navigate to where the man is posting the comments.
Why does he need to come here? Seems rather demanding to me. If you wish to respond to his comments, then contact him directly or navigate to where the man is posting the comments.
Yes. How dare he post something about google on his own blog!...especially when it contradicts Reseller's theories. ;)
http://207.68.172.246/
Must be Jagger 3
Gave me a good laugh!
