Update Dominic - Part 5

The saga!

[dvduval]

dvduval:
Indeed I am missing a PR7 backlink!

I checked also with the same result. I'm starting to breath easier (but that could also be the coffee wearing off!)

Worth noting: It is highly unlikely Google will reduce the size of its index. Otherwise they'll get hit with a barage of those "enlargement" emails (if you know what I mean), and that would be embarrassing!
;-)

[wackmaster]

It was fun ;-)

We need these little breaks to keep our sanity, and please don't ask me to define sanity...

[reneewood]

UUUGGGHHH! My very clean, PR5 homepage is still gone from sj. Is there anyone still in this sinking boat with me? (Please no soapbox "You shouldn't rely on Google for all your traffic" sermons") Only the truly sympathetic need reply. Google has been good to me.

It isn't over right. Tell me it isn't over....

[djgreg]

reneewood same boat. Many of my sites which had Nr.1 or 2 positions over the last months have gone to nowhere. The only thing which makes me hope is that only half of the backlinks are counted until now.

greg

[seonut]

renee,

I'm with ya....I sure hope it's not over yet either...

"Google has been good to me..."

yeah past tense...has been

[skipfactor]

My very clean, PR5 homepage is still gone from sj. Is there anyone still in this sinking boat with me?

I'm showing about the same on a clean PR4. From #1 to #150 on my top phrase. Scanning these SERPS, I'm left with the impression that most of these sites are older sites, mine's 3 months old.

[Vrian_Sinth]

I'm "showing" a jump from PR5 to PR6. Looks like Google may be nice to me this time!

[wackmaster]

reneewood,

Tell us what you think AFTER you see data from the current index (or better, most recent crawl) incorporated into -sj. If it still looks bad after that, well, perhaps then it will be time get the tissues out.

[rfgdxm1]

>I'm showing about the same on a clean PR4. From #1 to #150 on my top phrase. Scanning these SERPS, I'm left with the impression that most of these sites are older sites, mine's 3 months old.

Do other sites link with this phrase in the anchor text to this page? If so, check with an allinanchor: search and see what the difference is for your ranking. Google lost the anchor text inbounds for one site of mine, and this may explain your dramatic drop.

[rfgdxm1]

>UUUGGGHHH! My very clean, PR5 homepage is still gone from sj. Is there anyone still in this sinking boat with me? (Please no soapbox "You shouldn't rely on Google for all your traffic" sermons") Only the truly sympathetic need reply. Google has been good to me.

Is this just you site's homepage, or is the whole site gone?

[skipfactor]

>Do other sites link with this phrase in the anchor text to this page? If so, check with an allinanchor:

allinanchor: only shows my homepage on -sj which doesn't surprise me because I've shown one measly backlink since sj reared its head

>>Is this just you site's homepage, or is the whole site gone?

Funny you should mention this: My homepage is #1 on my top phrase, then on -sj, it's gone & the #150 rank I mentioned is for perhaps my weakest page. What's your take on this rfgdxm1?

[reneewood]

rfgdxm1

It's just my homepage. sj is showing two new pages of my site that were never in the index before. They both show PR5 but have just a couple of backlinks to other pages on my site.

When sj started to dance, my homepage had moved to the #2 position in sj, www2 and www3. It stayed there for four days or so and then vanished. Any thoughts?

[djgreg]

question about allinanchor:
What does this search do? and do you type allinanchor:www.yourdomain.com or allinanchor:keyword?
What is expected to be shown by this search?

[french tourist]

UUUGGGHHH! My very clean, PR5 homepage is still gone from sj. Is there anyone still in this sinking boat with me?

You are not alone, 97 % of my pages are still lost on -sj -but I guess why : I redirected (301 Permanent) my old_domain.fr to new_domain.com in mid-February, and the -sj index has not yet taken this URL move into account.

[WebMistress]

I, too, lost my hompeage to never-never land when -sj first came on the scene, then a couple of days ago, my homepage came back and took back it's #1 and #2 position for my main keywords. However, other pages that used to be number one for other keywords are still way down. I believe as google applies different aspects of their algo, these pages too will recoup like my homepage did after one of the algo aspects were applied evidently a couple of days ago. It seems to be happening in steps. But I don't see anything new happening in the past couple of days. It's not yet over.

[rfgdxm1]

>allinanchor: only shows my homepage on -sj which doesn't surprise me because I've shown one measly backlink since sj reared its head

Did you do this in the form of allinanchor:keyword?

[trillianjedi]

When sj started to dance, my homepage had moved to the #2 position in sj, www2 and www3. It stayed there for four days or so and then vanished. Any thoughts?

Hmmm... that doesn't sound good to me. The new filters coming in perhaps?

TJ

[reneewood]

Just an observation......it seems like many of the sites that dropped off of sj are sites only a few months old. Could this be a common denominator for some type of algo that hasn't yet been applied? I'm reaching for strings here....

[skipfactor]

>Did you do this in the form of allinanchor:keyword?

Ah, that does it, thanks for new-to-me the tip:

allinanchor:keyword phrase =
#21 www-sj
#12 www

Both are the homepage

[rfgdxm1]

>question about allinanchor:
What does this search do? and do you type allinanchor:www.yourdomain.com or allinanchor:keyword?
What is expected to be shown by this search?

As far as I can tell, this ranks according to the anchor text linking to that page.

[google.com...]

"search engine" appears nowhere on the home page of Google. Lots of sites link to them that way, though. This is how I was able to determine Google was hosed and lost the anchor text to my main site. On www, alinanchor:certainkeyword has my home page at #4. I'm nowheresville for that on -sj. This keyword is so uncommonly used to link to sites that there is no way I couldn't come up high for it.

[rfgdxm1]

>When sj started to dance, my homepage had moved to the #2 position in sj, www2 and www3. It stayed there for four days or so and then vanished. Any thoughts?

Sounds to me reneewood at the moment Google has lost your home page. Try a search in -sj that would be unique to your home page. If you don't come up, your home page is not in the index.

[WebMistress]

But Reneewood, don't panic even if your homepage doesn't come up for something unique to your homepage...mine didn't either 2 days ago...but now it's back...yours will come back as they continue adding. I was starting to think my server must have been down when google crawled because I had horrendous server problems last month. I was relieved when my homepage came back. Yours will, too.

[tennismaster]

Our site also dropped from several no.1 rankings, to nowhere at the start of this update.

However, I am pleased to report that we have now re-appeared at no.1 for all our previous search terms, so
it may be too early to panic.

The backlinks are still out of date, I have checked a few
of those showing in -sj, and they have been deleted for
months.
Also no sign of DMOZ or GOOGLE directory backlinks, so
they do not appear to have been factored in yet.

Hope this gives some hope!

TM

[roundabout]

I know things are in flux, etc.

but does anyone have any educated guesses as to which server results are going to be the one: -sj or -fi? or maybe neither?

[denisl]

I'm seeing different SERPS on www - have moved down the list but cannot see why - the index appears to be last month data still.

[reneewood]

rfgdxm1

"Try a search in -sj that would be unique to your home page. If you don't come up, your home page is not in the index."

I searched sj for something that would be unique to my homepage. It returned my newly indexed catalog front page with my HOMEPAGE indented underneath it. Is this good or significant in anyway?

Also, it shows the last update of my homepage to be May 2. It was usually updated every day or two.

[kmtell]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but I think it was last week that I posted something about my page being dropped from google SERPs for a certain high competition keyword. Well, on sj and fi, I get the same crappy results. It must have been one of those datacenters that I was routed to. Is that possible or does that make sense?

[rfgdxm1]

>I searched sj for something that would be unique to my homepage. It returned my newly indexed catalog front page with my HOMEPAGE indented underneath it. Is this good or significant in anyway?

Sounds like that phrase is not unique, but common to both pages, and the catalog front page ranks higher.

[WebMistress]

I don't think it's because the catalog front page ranks higher because I experienced the same exact thing at one point in this slow update, then my homepage regained it's position over my internal page, as I like I said earlier, when one of the algo aspects was added.

[reneewood]

Could it be significant that my homepage has not been updated since May 2?

[jokaroo]

I've been dropped by -sj as well. My site has been around for 3 years! How can this have happened? I'm still listed in WWW, but it won't be long till -sj gets integrated. For the first little while, we were listed -sj with a better ranking, then suddenly removed from the index.