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Indeed I am missing a PR7 backlink!
Worth noting: It is highly unlikely Google will reduce the size of its index. Otherwise they'll get hit with a barage of those "enlargement" emails (if you know what I mean), and that would be embarrassing!
I agree - Search engines for most are about 'new client acquisition'
Most web sites are about serving both existing clients AND new client acquisition.
Around 6% of total site traffic from SE's is the 'corporate norm' for the sites I've analysed - and I'd agree on 85% of the SE traffic being 'Google index source data' (Google & partners).
It just depends on how your site is built, marketed, and what it does. If you think about it - on some sites, total site traffic should heavily reflect existing customers buying stuff. rather than new client activity & tyre kicking. Eg If I want to buy a book - I'd probably go to Amazon - rather than google; if I want to send flowers - I'll go to the online florist I've used several times before. Many people are creatures of habit - become their habit!
Bookmark, come back again and again etc.
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* fi and sj return exactly the same ranks for the 27 pages on my site that I checked. (Both show ranks different from ranks on ex. ex's ranks are the old ranks.)
* Pages Google doesn't know about, such as 404 pages with no links, now show a gray bar rather than guessing that the PR is (PR of top level - url depth). I like this change :)
* A few of my PR7s became PR6s.
* Three of my pages went from PR4 or PR6 to PR0 (white bar).
* PR0 page A is still #1 on a two-word search, beating a PR6 page that's equally relevant. (PR0 page A is fairly new. Its subject includes a possible "poison" word, but with a different meaning than the one that could make it poisonous. The competing page was not PR0ed.)
* PR0 page B doesn't show at all for a two-word search for which it used to be #1. In fact, it doesn't show for any searches, and searching for the URL shows that while Google knows about the URL, it does not have the page's title or content. (PR0 page B is fairly new but has many links to it in www-fi's index.)
* PR0 page C is still #1 on a search for its title, even though other several competing pages have very similar titles. Unlike A and B, it still has its backlinks showing, even though backlinks usually only show when both sites are PR4 or higher. (PR0 page C is an old framed page with little or no text content.)
-fi is still considerably worse than my current standings, but when all my backlinks are factored in, it could quite possibly be an improvement.
In the SJ server however, I am #20! My backlinks have fallen from 318 to 143. This is so despite the fact that over the past month I have added at least 200 links all >PR4.
The curious thing is, mine is the only site in the top 20 that has been affected. I am not sure what the reason is for this except that we have been moving up steadily over the past 5-6 months, while the others have been static.
This leads me to conclude that these are "old" results when we really had 143 links and was at #20. Does this make sense?
I noticed the gray bar on 'new' pages as well -- in fact you can see it in this thread. The old toolbar would guess the PR. However, I've seen some pages show PR0, and this page, which I'm posting now has a PR 6.
So maybe it's just some changes being made in PR, which is consistent with what we know about the update so far. Maybe that's why your pages are showing PR0, although still having good results.
Also I'm thinking of joining linkstoyou.com FFA link farm because some of the sites using that link farm came back from PR0 penalty in April update and the remaining sites are back on www-sj in this update, on page-1 of course, despite the fact that they are still proudly displaying the logo of linkstoyou.com on their index pages and linking to it.
We might as well all sit back and enjoy the ride.
To try and make any changes now could end up really hurting once it has all played out.
Renee, I think if you read everything from start to finish you would in fact see that the SJ results are not going to be the end result. Those results do not have newer backlinks or spam filters or recent crawl data in them. According to GG, those will be added as we go. So, the results will undoubtely swing wildly again.
Believe me, I know it feels better to jump on here and post, but in the long run all any of us can do is wait and see what happens.
Now all of a sudden it's back at #1 on -sj, -fi, www2 and ww3, but what worries me is that there is no cached version of it and the PR is grey. Will Google keep it in it's index without a PR?
looks like fi results going to sj, I wouldn't bet on it though, might be going circles.
Now consistently they have been going in order plus or minus 2-3 days. I wonder if this would be a key as to predict when deep crawls are coming from Google.
Jeeves is currently eating the hell out of it and I never even submitted to it and my pet's Googlebot is next in line for a deep crawl. This would explain the time offset between deep crawls across my client's site.
Now that everything has seemed to settle and the dust has cleared and I've stopped sweating so much. My rankings all went back to better than what they were plus there was this big spammer competitor that loved to stuff his URLs like /productx/widget1-widget3-unknownwidget4x-widget3-productx.html and he is now beneath me like 30 or so while I hold numero uno with clean straight pages
I'll accept this until the deep crawl comes back to update my cache which gives me more time to add on theme content.
I'd give it another update before worrying as it probably needs to be crawled and re-indexed. A penalized site that was added back via a reinclusion request last month had a gray bar, no backlinks and no cache, but ranked well in the SERPs. It was deep crawled and now has a cached page but still has a gray bar/no backlinks. From reading some of the messages posted I think that may change once the update settles.
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He did not give a specific time frame but hinted that once they were, the SERP's would probably change.
If you read over all those threads, clue in to GG posts and draw your own conclusions because right now the only constant is that there is no constant.
Whats the most significant change? I think it is more focus on the keywords and less on backlinks unless they have significant anchor text. What do you guys think?