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Indeed I am missing a PR7 backlink!
Worth noting: It is highly unlikely Google will reduce the size of its index. Otherwise they'll get hit with a barage of those "enlargement" emails (if you know what I mean), and that would be embarrassing!
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Those are important questions that may indicate how things have changed. I asked about the 41k links to try to find out how they were obtained. 41k is ALOT of return links, and that number alone might be something that sets off flags somewhere.
All just thoughts, ya know?
Alex
When I checked the directory on -sj yesterday, it was indeed a recent copy.
And, how is Google supposed to figure out if the link is from a related page or not? With billions of pages, adding that in the algo would be non-trivial. Also, such a filter would lead to a lot of false positives. For example, I link from my page about vodka to your page about Scotch whiskey. Both are obviously related. However, since your page is laden with the keywords "Scotch whisky", and mine "vodka", to an algo it wouldn't look like it.
There is a trivial way to do it. Google could just look in dmoz or yahoo directory and see if you have links coming from other sites in the same category. If you aren't listed in those directories then your sites not important anyways.
Google rolled out a new algo and did not include the latest deep crawl data.
The new update will take effect slowly across the datacenters and the latest crawl data will be added in at which point I think will see some big changes.
This is in reverse to what they normally do and maybe they did it just to change things, their working on something even bigger, etc. who knows.
In any event, it has been one thrill ride of an a event of which I bet we see many more of in the future as Google grows, gets better, tests things out, etc.
With MSN gunning for them now in earnest, It is in their best interest to stay on top of the game which is what I think their trying to do.
Will the average user notice that the latest deepcrawl data is not present for a while, I doubt it.
They are looking for input as to the amount of spam the latest algo got rid of and I think they have gotten quite a bit up to this point.
This has been one of the more interesting dances that I've followed.
Thanks to GoogleGuy for posting on this board trying to relieve the concerns of Webmasters. He doens' have to but I think Google really want our input since we are the ones designing the sites that will feed the relevant
Which brings up another interesting observation: several of the sites I monitor get freshbot visits, but never seem to appear in the "Fresh" results. Others, it's just like clockwork -- get the visit, and see the results the next day. Maybe these types of fresh visits where you don't see immediate results are starting to show their purpose.
www-sj is showing my site at page-2 #4 (overall #14). No. backlinks is down to 0. The title and cache of my site is what it was till 17-April (did one change in title on 17-April by removing a '-'.
My page-1 #8 position on www-sj has been taken by a geocities.com hosted page that has 36 links and all of them coming from guestbooks without a single exception. So much for the new google algo and quality of SERPs. Even altavista has better algo. than this current google algo.
So, www-sj is an older version of index. Pages crawled after 17-April are not included in this index. So this appears to be a google downgrade rather than an update.
1) it seems that any links I have received in the last 2 months are lost for the time being
2) the PR of my sites are about what they were 2 months ago ... could be related to number 1 above
anyone else notice something similar?
The linked from page is in the sj index, and the link appears in the cache, but the receiving site is back to a PR0 for the moment.
I would say, based on all the comments, to give it time.
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I hope so webmistress or else I would have to agree that the results displayed in -sj are definitley a downgrade, not an updrade in quailty listings (note - I am fine but the new links around me are, to say the least, pretty poor)
I have the same situation at more than one site/domain. No. of backlinks on www-sj is showing as what it was in February and I have been keeping a very close eye on my backlinks (like most of us here do) since last 3-4 months.
Its not only about backlinks. Title and description as they are appearing on www-sj are also old.
I wondered what was going on as I had more hits today than all of last week. It would seem the index has indeed been updated.
Develop a product (in my case-software), develop a good network of affiliates, treat them well (so they stay loyal), and let THEM worry about the Google update ;-)
Sure. (Sorry, I had to run out for a minute)
Or have a long term business plan that can survive with the expenses on PPC. I would like to add that.
I'm WAY down in -sj for both of my most coveted terms. Looking fantastic in -fi for both (from #12 to #5 and #38 to #12). In regular www, I'm high for one kw, and way down for the other. None of my newer backlinks are showing in either db.
Can't wait to see how all of this plays out in the next couple weeks. Just want to say how great it is to have all of you here contributing comments and ideas.
I think the old saying may be true again, and that old saying went something like "try not to analyze the dance too much, it will ultimately change when it goes live, and may flux during the dance...if you try to analyze it while it's going on you'll only be running in circles".
Perhaps this is true again.
I just did an excercise for one of the lists I am on and found that although Google and partners accounted for about 85% of search traffic, only about 9% of our total traffic was from search engines.
