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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ankhenaton

4:31 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



What about all these idiotic Link exchanges that link to you and then write to you you should too? I have this several times .. One of them is a major linkbuy offender. We haven't asked for the stupid links on the pages of the people he cons with this bs. So if G now discounts pages that are on link buyers pages you are effed without having actually done it..

reseller

4:32 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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AlexK

>>reseller:
Dagger3?:
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

>>Only the last of those is different for my ami-2019f modem-search, but different in a wonderful way:

My site has suffered from both Canonical URLs (hello Dayo_UK) *and* Supplementals. Fixes were put in place for both in Feb-05, yet few changes until a nose-dive in Sep-22. Finally, 66.102.7.99 shows with the correct url (bliss), and is non-supplemental (ecstacy), and is in the #1 spot (with a cherry on top!).<<

Congrats my friend. And a Happy Canonicals Day to you :-)

blaggard

4:38 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ankhenaton

I bin them and forget them :)

Ankhenaton

4:38 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



66.102.7.99

has supplemental a page first on a test word on my server then the actual page, the 2nd is a doi.org url only

Mega Publishers are coming all up with their offline journals. Since the scanning deal is off with G maybe they made a deal with publishers like springer elsevier etc.

AlexK

4:40 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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annej:
curious as to what people think about MCs statement today, " J3 has less to do with spam and more to do with general indexing."

A "nocompress=1" site:my-site.com search gives:

66.102.11.99 : Results 1 - 10 of about 1,780 
66.102.7.104 : Results 1 - 10 of about 8,110

(the quoted search term was previously responsible for dupe issues; it has been 301-d to a URL without this term since Feb, yet until now that has not been reflected in the G-index).

G seems to be finally taking the winnow-tool to its index. And about bloody time (forgive my french).

Added:

Even more interesting, perhaps, is -www "nocompress=1" site:modem-help.com:

66.102.11.99 : Results 1 - 2 of about 3 
66.102.7.104 : Results 1 - 10 of about 177

[edited by: AlexK at 4:59 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

Ankhenaton

4:40 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



Ankhenaton

I bin them and forget them :)

Well I usually did too, but since I saw a link to me on a CROOKS R US page :\ ..

Maybe you are misunderstanding me, I never answer these mails and just binned them for years. But if alliance with them gets penalised and they link to you unasked you might want to start to worry. I remember this idiot in India that pulled the whole SUN Java rated tree with the heading reverse engineered [as he sold a Java decompiler]. So if you typed in my name it looked not very good and you needed to go into the site to see that he didn't actually say these applets where reverse engineered or fiddled with but that he just pulled the sun tree. Writing to him to pull that made no difference ..

[edited by: Ankhenaton at 4:47 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

AlexK

4:44 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Eazygoin:
why on earth would Google make a site disappear if its using AdWords?

Adsense has an independant bot (MediaPartners) which has Chinese walls with the other 3 G-Bots.

jkdt0077

4:45 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

IMO these still show pre jagger results. They look EXACTLY as i remember them before the update started, specifically my site not being included anywhere. When jagger1 began my site finally began to appear in SERPS and still do in google.co.uk and .com but not on those DC's.

As GG said jagger 3 has not even started.

More Traffic Please

4:57 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

IMO these still show pre jagger results. They look EXACTLY as i remember them before the update started

For my terms these DC's are much closer to pre Jag, but they are still more heavily weighted with pages from the mega sites. It's like G turned down the radical changes of Jag just a bit.

AlexK

5:07 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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-www site:my-site.com:
66.102.11.99 : Results 1 - 10 of about 98 
66.102.7.104 : Results 1 - 10 of about 6,710

Remember, it has taken 9 months for these changes to finally percolate into the SERPs.

needinfo

5:12 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Reseller,

Ladies & Gentlemen
Please welcome Jagger3 front troops on these 3 Dcs

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

I keep seeing my site back at #1 very intermitantly (about once every 50 - 100 refreshes) on the above Dc's. Is this basically what you have been seeing?

greenfrog

5:19 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

These results look very poor....

arnarn

5:20 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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**** JUST A WARNING ****

earlier posts suggested adding an EN to the end of domain name.. I did and almost got clobbered by a virus!

be careful where you go, you might get bit!

Eazygoin

5:26 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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needinfo >>
Are you doing a search for a keyword or the domain name of your site?

asher02

5:28 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Can someone please let me know the ip of the current googlebot. It seems that my hosting company stopped giving the name just the ip :(

reseller

5:28 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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needinfo

>>Reseller,

Ladies & Gentlemen
Please welcome Jagger3 front troops on these 3 Dcs

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

I keep seeing my site back at #1 very intermitantly (about once every 50 - 100 refreshes) on the above Dc's. Is this basically what you have been seeing? <<

No. I have been seeing results without the need to refresh.

needinfo

5:28 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Eazygoin

I'm doing a search for one of our major keyword phrases.

greenfrog

5:28 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Per Matt "Like A Knife" Cutts...

"Just to keep people up-to-date, Jagger3 is not visible yet. Last week I said that Jagger3 would hopefully be visible this week. It’s possible that it might be visible by Friday or this weekend. I’ll let you know when I’ve got more info. "

ltedesco

5:30 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Read Matt's Blog today!

Just to keep people up-to-date, Jagger3 is not visible yet. Last week I said that Jagger3 would hopefully be visible this week. It’s possible that it might be visible by Friday or this weekend. I’ll let you know when I’ve got more info.

Guys, lets stop the panic and speculation and wait.

frup

5:30 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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greenfrog, don't post facts, people on this thread are only interested in absolutely silly, meaningless, and shockingly uninformed speculation

greenfrog

5:31 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2 minutes 2 slow.

needinfo

5:31 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Reseller,
I have just done a more in depth check on our other sites and I noticed that most of our sites are ranking pretty much back to where they were before this update ont hese 3 DC's. The one I was checking before is the worst ranked, but it is still much better than a week ago.

I do however notice very imtermitantly that our sites rank even better and return back to their #1 positions, so maybe there is some tweaking going on there.

ltedesco

5:36 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"2 minutes 2 slow"
hehehe, at least we are in the same page. ;O)

Atomic

5:37 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What a great day to wake up and see that J2 is finally just about over. I can't wait till we see J3. For a second this morning I thought J2 had brought me 3x my normal traffic but further investigation showed thast one of my sites was featured on TV with a link on the stations homepage. Almost better than just a J2 bounce.

Kangol

5:37 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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66.102.7.99 just moved for a term I watch. Is better and better. Less spam, I rank again.

Dayo_UK

5:43 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



AlexK

I too am seeing some improvments on sites hit by the Canonical url problem on the DC - a long long long way to go - but improvements :)

petehall

5:45 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

Nasty results. No progress for newer sites trying to make some ground in search engines there.

*No doubt this will keep most webmasterwolrd members happy as it's bye bye competition again.

Eazygoin

5:49 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Kangol >>

Same here, on that DC :-)))

petehall

5:49 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I personally don't think you could get much better than 66.102.9.104.

WebPixie

5:50 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"66.102.7.99 just moved for a term I watch. Is better and better. Less spam, I rank again."

yea, keep those!

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