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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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reseller

9:31 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ladies & Gentlemen

Please welcome Jagger3 front troops on these 3 Dcs

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

Jagger3... You Rock!

Mountdoom

9:32 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I for one am going to listen to Matt's advice and wait for Friday and the weekend. All this wild speculation is doing my head in! I've even started calling my cat Jagger (his real name is Jasper)... Good luck everyone!

StriderUK

9:33 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ditto MountDoom

CrackSeo

9:34 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I dont like 216.239.57.99 at all :( My sites have dropped from position 1 to 99.

Dayo_UK

9:35 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



I am convinced that people jump on a DC and say that it is good hoping the Google will just say - OK - we will use that one then.

Lol - that is not going to happen it is still a work in progress.

foxtunes

9:38 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In the markets I'm tracking these data centers are virtually spam free.

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

followgreg

9:39 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.57.99 looks like some mix of pre-jagger and jagger2 I don't think it will stick, but who knows :)

For the records: I don't find them spam free at all! IMO

stevexyz

9:41 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Only my observation.

The following:
64.233.189.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99

I really dont think will stick. This is the observation - 2 new sites 4 months old on their actual names - IE the name of the site which are not keywords at all rank second on these DC's. All updated DC's mentioned here over the last weeks have these sites ranking first. The way these two site rank on the above DC's are the same as they ranked PRE jagger.

reseller

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foxtunes

>>In the markets I'm tracking these data centers are virtually spam free.

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99 <<

Thanks for feedback!

How about you guys? what do you see on the 3 Dcs, Jagger3 Front Troops?

Dayo_UK

9:45 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>How about you guys? what do you see on the 3 Dcs, Jagger3 Front Troops?

The more I look at it I see a version of Jagger2

dudibob

9:45 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey all,

Does anyone figured out how you get high rankings in Jagger 3? Does it suppport large businesses more now? or is it just a good mix of everything now?

I can't seem to make any connection at the mo :s

Dayo_UK

9:46 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>Does anyone figured out how you get high rankings in Jagger 3?

First step would be wait until it is live - then perhaps you can see what G favours.

jd01

9:48 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone figured out how you get high rankings in Jagger 3

Will get back to you after it actually starts...

Justin

Hmmmm.... if I didn't know better I would think some of the DC watchers are playing mind games, calling Jagger3...

dudibob

9:48 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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lol, I guess that would be the best thing to do, but patience can be the most annoying thing at times...lol

RichTC

9:50 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well the uk data centre im looking at this morning has put a load of sites back in that were out yesterday.

Why? God knows because some of it was plain old junk. (i use the word old because i think G has given older sites an extra tweak no matter what their content)

I dont think anyone minds a site listing above them if its on toppic and in the same league or possibly a better authority than your own.

What i hate to see is loads of directory sites ranking above sites that are about the search term. If i want a directory i will go to one. If i want information about relevent sites about my subject i use a search engine.

Yesterday G had it right in the UK, now its almost as it was prior to the update - pointless exercise imo.

leeds1

9:51 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[64.233.189.104...]

This DC is definately updated and has serps from yesterday when I was refreshing (and they appeared briefly)

Some spam has also been removed

Serps look very , very good

marin

9:52 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<How about you guys? what do you see on the 3 Dcs, Jagger3 Front Troops? >

Hi reseller, I am in business again!

Eazygoin

9:53 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just one word comes to mind, when seeing all these posts....Speculation....or is it Anticipation.....or maybe its just Jagger Fever!

dudibob

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wow, I would of thought the big G should of picked up on tecnics like that by now :s

anttiv

10:03 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One of my daggered sites is back at 216.239.57.99 but another one is gone.

Eazygoin

10:03 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The reality is that SERP's move all the time.

I just checked MSN, and my main keyword was at number 3 for world and UK search yesterday morning. In the afternoon, it had disappeared for world, and was at 15 for UK. This morning its back at 3 for both world and UK.
The same goes for Google. The results move constantly, and depend on the IP address being used.
BUT, the most important thing is that we are looking at a final result that will at best be available for 3 months, until the next update. Then all the speculation starts afresh!
At the end of the day, its your statistics you want to see moving in the right direction!

istar

10:04 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



anyway Google fight against spam have completely failed ,they removed some obvious ones but manually and after reports of Jagger 1 ,2 ech.That means
1)by automated algo changes you can't fight spam and Google admited by leting GG and MC to invite webmasters to report spam in other words (Soryy we can't doit we need your help)
Those updates have caused many innocent sites to drop or disappear ,for what ,for nothing.
There is no way fighting spam and the above examples i mention is an evidence.Anybodu can start a net work of pages even today start a link campaighn use the methods of those guys and within a year can make tones of $$$ with adsense or any other PPC program.So what Jagger will bring is only another boring concert of the old Stones.

followgreg

10:05 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well if we start giving out leads for spam here, see this one:

<snip>

At position 8 there is a cloaking page on my DC:
I won't post the live link but it's the url ending in /EN/french_caviar.html

Easy to find who did it, the SEO company doing it signs their cloaking pages and Google does n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

I warned Google sending spam reports long ago about the mother company (which is french, just follow the links and ou will find who it is) because they have countless cheats all across Europe...now they are in US and still no penalties...Welcome to Google double standards!

Can mister Googleguy explain me that?

I have 12's of other examples, if not 100's...

-->> for the moderators: feel free to remove this post if you think it is offending, although truth needs to be said someday!

[edited by: followgreg at 10:08 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:55 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

djmick200

10:08 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So J3 rolls out on Friday, IMO it will be slow then adjustments made and could be at least another week before anything is stable.

A couple of my smaller sites have done well with recent changes on the DC's that you guys have been mentioning (well the one's reseller mentions - he seems to be chief DC watcher) but I ain't holding my breathe. One in particular G wouldnt pee on it if it was on fire before even though it's 2 years old and bursting at the seams with quality content but seems to love it this week.

Anyway time will tell for us all..........some will win, some will lose, some will be even.

Shake those dice and let's roll them.

[edited by: djmick200 at 10:10 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

johan

10:08 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You guys could be correct studying data centres all day however for me simply looking at google.co.uk results I had presumed the update to be over 2 days ago once the extra links at the bottom of listings for top sites ranking at number one had been displayed and everything looks more or less correct.

foxtunes

10:10 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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".....Shake those dice and let's roll them....."

Update Craps :)

[edited by: foxtunes at 10:13 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

istar

10:10 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



followgreg
I have posted in MC's blog spam reports but the scamers are still there kings ,if the moderators let us we can show them extreme examples of sites that are on #1 -#5 for BIG keywords and I mean BIG money terms in the travel industry.

sailorjwd

10:13 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Last night I had 16 pages with the canonical problem.

This morning on 66.102.7.99 I am down to 3 + a url only entry. But my homepage is still one of them :(

dudibob

10:19 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hey Followgreg, if youadd EN (in capitals) to the end of the domain name of that website, you get a big list of pages all signed :s lol

followgreg

10:20 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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followgreg
I have posted in MC's blog spam reports but the scamers are still there kings ,if the moderators let us we can show them extreme examples of sites that are on #1 -#5 for BIG keywords and I mean BIG money terms in the travel industry.

I have a database of major spammers myself, I will be with you if anyone wants us to post REAL scams as you said, not talking small spam anymore!

Please feel free to sticky mail me anytime ;-) I think that we deserve clean competition.

Next step is a press release, well written but it might hurt Google instead of helping so it's a bit extreme and not the objective at all :-) IMO!

Waiting for moderators or MC to give the green light...

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