Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Lol - that is not going to happen it is still a work in progress.
The following:
64.233.189.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
I really dont think will stick. This is the observation - 2 new sites 4 months old on their actual names - IE the name of the site which are not keywords at all rank second on these DC's. All updated DC's mentioned here over the last weeks have these sites ranking first. The way these two site rank on the above DC's are the same as they ranked PRE jagger.
The more I look at it I see a version of Jagger2
First step would be wait until it is live - then perhaps you can see what G favours.
Why? God knows because some of it was plain old junk. (i use the word old because i think G has given older sites an extra tweak no matter what their content)
I dont think anyone minds a site listing above them if its on toppic and in the same league or possibly a better authority than your own.
What i hate to see is loads of directory sites ranking above sites that are about the search term. If i want a directory i will go to one. If i want information about relevent sites about my subject i use a search engine.
Yesterday G had it right in the UK, now its almost as it was prior to the update - pointless exercise imo.
This DC is definately updated and has serps from yesterday when I was refreshing (and they appeared briefly)
Some spam has also been removed
Serps look very , very good
I just checked MSN, and my main keyword was at number 3 for world and UK search yesterday morning. In the afternoon, it had disappeared for world, and was at 15 for UK. This morning its back at 3 for both world and UK.
The same goes for Google. The results move constantly, and depend on the IP address being used.
BUT, the most important thing is that we are looking at a final result that will at best be available for 3 months, until the next update. Then all the speculation starts afresh!
At the end of the day, its your statistics you want to see moving in the right direction!
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At position 8 there is a cloaking page on my DC:
I won't post the live link but it's the url ending in /EN/french_caviar.html
Easy to find who did it, the SEO company doing it signs their cloaking pages and Google does n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
I warned Google sending spam reports long ago about the mother company (which is french, just follow the links and ou will find who it is) because they have countless cheats all across Europe...now they are in US and still no penalties...Welcome to Google double standards!
Can mister Googleguy explain me that?
I have 12's of other examples, if not 100's...
-->> for the moderators: feel free to remove this post if you think it is offending, although truth needs to be said someday!
[edited by: followgreg at 10:08 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:55 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]
A couple of my smaller sites have done well with recent changes on the DC's that you guys have been mentioning (well the one's reseller mentions - he seems to be chief DC watcher) but I ain't holding my breathe. One in particular G wouldnt pee on it if it was on fire before even though it's 2 years old and bursting at the seams with quality content but seems to love it this week.
Anyway time will tell for us all..........some will win, some will lose, some will be even.
Shake those dice and let's roll them.
[edited by: djmick200 at 10:10 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]
followgreg
I have posted in MC's blog spam reports but the scamers are still there kings ,if the moderators let us we can show them extreme examples of sites that are on #1 -#5 for BIG keywords and I mean BIG money terms in the travel industry.
I have a database of major spammers myself, I will be with you if anyone wants us to post REAL scams as you said, not talking small spam anymore!
Please feel free to sticky mail me anytime ;-) I think that we deserve clean competition.
Next step is a press release, well written but it might hurt Google instead of helping so it's a bit extreme and not the objective at all :-) IMO!
Waiting for moderators or MC to give the green light...