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AlexK, that's a different domain. But the point is very well taken. You've found a pretty obscure query (~295 results) that the keyword stuffing spammers like to target. I'll check this out in more detail.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:03 am (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]
I best just sit it out (and worry) before doing anything.
I do not know exactly how the G datacenters are setup, but this would be expected, when there are more queries than a single box can handle.
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edited to add
If they wanted to make a box, or a set of boxes invisible to the outside world, all they have to do is make it/them inactive in the load balanced pool, do whatever they wanted to them, and then activate them again in the pool so that they could be accessed again.
[edited by: WW_Watcher at 9:28 pm (utc) on Nov. 8, 2005]
>>Petehall, do not be fooled by load balacing, those IP address you are looking at, may not be single boxes. That is why it is there, then it is not, then back again, then gone, differnt boxes behind a single ip address to a load balancer, with differnt datasets, or algos would do this.<<
Thanks. That mightbe the technical reasons behind: The Dog Ate Jagger3 :-)
Too broad of a brush, and very easy to fall way off the radar IMO. We're not talking about from #2 to #5, we're talking going to 10 visitors a day.
This is a good time for us to think about things we can do to make us less dependent on Google.
How about ads in magazines related to your niche or a newsletter? How about some info on your site that is so good people all over the world who are interested in your topic will bookmark it? I'm sure there are more possibilities. Lets hear about them.
It's always going to hurt a lot to lose Google but if you can even get half of your visitors coming from something other than Google that means your business is just cut in half. Not ideal but a lot better than next to nothing.
:/
>>What IP should we be looking at for the latest?<<
Maybe this one 66.102.9.104
Im still with the lets see the most relevent results to the search term and dump the 9s and keep the 7s data!.
Perhaps they should settle at that - keep half the data centres based on the 7 data and the other half based on the 9s.
That way all webmasters are happy!
I´m really surprised to see so many of us, including myself, have missed Jagger3 today when it was eaten by that nasty dog this morning :-)
I sense that some of us think the folks at the plex have done a pretty good job at this update and therefore we wanted Jagger3 back.
During Borboun update there wasn't that feeling of missing Borboun during the flux that followed it.
Maybe after all we do wish to thank GG, Matt & Co for bringing us Jagger3 back ;-)
Good night and God bless.
How about ads in magazines related to your niche or a newsletter? How about some info on your site that is so good people all over the world who are interested in your topic will bookmark it? I'm sure there are more possibilities. Lets hear about them.We get 50% - 65% of our visitors from non-Google referrals. More than half of those are non-referral, meaning "unknown, email referrred, or typed into addr field, etc"It's always going to hurt a lot to lose Google but if you can even get half of your visitors coming from something other than Google that means your business is just cut in half. Not ideal but a lot better than next to nothing.
We have tried (oh boy, have we tried) so many other methods of generating visitors. Our attempts to get newspapers etc to run stories is poorly productive. I would estimate I have to send out 300 targeted emails AFTER A PHONE CALL to get journalists to run stories. When it happens, our visitor rate goes up by a factor of 2-8 times normal.
Embarrassingly, an unknown site linked to one of our garden tours in July, for just one day. Traffic from that was amazing, so I did some surfing to find out who it was....
Ack! Choke! It was a porno site, with a "here's some culture for you one-handed typists"! I was shocked....
AND, awed at the visitor rates. How many visitors must that site have, to generate an extra 5,000 visitors to our garden site?! And you have to figure that only 2% - 5% of the porno site's visitors would click on the single link.
Disturbing...
Is this the latest incarnation?
I have really lost my way with the box score these days; whats the story with this? [66.102.9.104...]Yet another DC with slightly different results. Perhaps there are new algo flavours which are being optimised for different countries / areas?
Is this the latest incarnation?
algae ice cream algo :-)
How about ads in magazines related to your niche
Anne I hope you are joking. Maybe if they wan't 1/10th the ROI this would work.
I have really lost my way with the box score these days; whats the story with this? [66.102.9.104...]
Is this the latest incarnation?
Yet another DC with slightly different results. Perhaps there are new algo flavours which are being optimised for different countries / areas?
If I had to guess, I would say that the results on this DC are in line with the way Jagger has been moving. For the 14 or so phrases I check, there seems to be a continued toning down of the mega sites and a rising of the smaller more focused and relevant sites. Time will tell, but I'd pick the results on this DC if the Jagger trend continues.
Google's become an elephant and now they can't remember how to dance.
The delay tells me they are not getting the results they expected. They need to fish or cut bait.
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If I had to guess, I would say that the results on this DC are in line with the way Jagger has been moving. For the 14 or so phrases I check, there seems to be a continued toning down of the mega sites and a rising of the smaller more focused and relevant sites. Time will tell, but I'd pick the results on this DC if the Jagger trend continues.
Pretty much in line with their referal program. All big experienced webmasters will know about adsense, so the only growth market is all the small websites with inexperienced or new webmasters, which will never have enough PI's to live from it. Since G is the accumulator that won't be their worry.
They obviously figured out that having 10000 wee sites with small income is better than having serious big sites with many pageviews :\.
Time to spread the content of the big site to all the sandboxed domains then.
site:mysite.com shows 30,700 results, with "repeat the search..." following result #779, and ~70% of those 779 are URL-only.
If G will only mop up the rest of the Canonical-issue, etc., my site may return to where it was a year ago.
Marks for effort: 9/10
Marks for results: 4/10
Pretty much in line with their referal program. All big experienced webmasters will know about adsense, so the only growth market is all the small websites with inexperienced or new webmasters, which will never have enough PI's to live from it. Since G is the accumulator that won't be their worry.
Fairly naive to think that all the top webmasters from 2010 already run big sites in 2005 is it not? There are lots of extensive sites out there that don't use adsense, some of whom have probably never heard of adsense. That is the problem, people become too isolated and believe that which surrounds them is all that there is. There is a whole big world out there on the internet and most webmasters probably would think a Jagger Update is an Entertainment Tonight Feature Story.
