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GoogleGuy

9:18 am on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued from:
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reseller, Jagger3 ended up having less emphasis on canonicals. I plan to make that a theme in my feedback to people at work though.

AlexK, that's a different domain. But the point is very well taken. You've found a pretty obscure query (~295 results) that the keyword stuffing spammers like to target. I'll check this out in more detail.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:03 am (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]

blueeagle

10:35 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the welcome,
I do not wont be in your club, would like to be in the club "oooh it is great update I am #1 for all my important keywords." :-))))))

I am the tipical update loser. florida, jagger whats up next.

Every time when I thing I do everything good and can not be hit. there is some update.

blueeagle

10:35 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the welcome,
I do not wont be in your club, would like to be in the club "oooh it is great update I am #1 for all my important keywords." :-))))))

I am the tipical update loser. florida, jagger whats up next.

Every time when I thing I do everything good and can not be hit. there is some update.

Pico_Train

10:39 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Salon99, you should stick around, sorry I was just messing around a bit. There's plenty of good info here for you and you can contribute anytime!

emulate

10:40 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



jeje, normasp, soy malagueño.
And my boss is not like yours :)
He is more comprehensible.

emulate........waiting for finished jagger´s update

bekyed

10:41 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Guys.

It's good to know there are other people in the same boat.
Come back alta vista eh!

Bek.

normasp

10:46 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> jeje, normasp, soy malagueño.
And my boss is not like yours :)
He is more comprehensible.

jajaja
tienes suerte con tu jefe ;)

Eazygoin

10:49 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Norma, English please...its difficult enough understanding some of the posts on here, without another language! LOL

Norma, Inglés por favor! Es bastante dificil entender algunas mensajes en Inglés, sin escribir en otro idioma....jajaja!

normasp

10:52 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> jeje, normasp, soy malagueño.
And my boss is not like yours :)
He is more comprehensible.

jajaja
tienes suerte con tu jefe ;)
Translate: You are a lucky man :P eazygoin ;)

bekyed: We have a t-shirt in our club which say: Only googlebot visits our page

Kangol

10:56 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are still things moving? I went to #40 from the #12 for my main term. I feel so dawn :(

JuniorOptimizer

11:10 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The only thing moving is the earnings into the trash can.

djmick200

11:18 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wakened up this morning with a jolt.
I was dreaming about DCs, SERPS, Jagger (not the man).
I've just made a doctors appointment - I DON'T dream normally.

Anyway had a quick look at this thread and seen GG said things were likely to go the 9 way - ouch for one site of mine. Anyway that's bias but for the keywords I watch the serps were looking pretty iffy. I hope the flux GG spoke of will clean up the mess I seen, if not I can see a lot of manipulation coming. (not from me)

Someone mentioned about the irrelevant results for 3 word keyphrases - i seen a lot of this. Results in the top 10 that had zero to do with the search i was making. They were appearing simply because the three words were in the page text - useless. I hope the flux will rectify this.

On a lighter note from me, G has finally found some appreciation for one content rich site of mine it's had in some kind of hate box for 2 years except for Google Images. Plus another site that I put online at the start of October is still hanging in there. That pleased me.

cleanup
Can you sticky me about sept 22nd please :-)

petehall

11:18 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Results on 9 are now looking fantastic.

djmick200

11:39 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Results on 9 are now looking fantastic."

Is that for your sites or in general? I am certainly not seeing great results in general.

Mods may remove but it shows a good example of what I'm talking about. (no sites of mine show)

eg:
[66.102.9.104...]

What those result show in nonesense. Maybe GG could pass some comment.

One other thing i noticed this morning. When the results show is it normal for some of your search words not to be made bold? On a number of results i looked at there was no bold for the kw in the url, some did some didn't. The one's i noticed didn't had repeated kw's in url. Is this common and something i've missed in the past?

petehall

11:44 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is that for your sites or in general? I am certainly not seeing great results in general.

Not specifically my sites but the sectors I know well and have watched for the past 5-6 years.

I don't have time to watch millions of other search results.

I'll leave that job to Google ;)

Kangol

11:46 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Results might be fantastic in some areas but for one of my keyword they were way better yesterday. Now I see some spam in top 20. From 20 results I see 8 spam sites that redirect to some PPC search engines.

Other keywords I am watching did not moved since yesterday. I hope that this is not the end. There are still some areas that needs cleaning up.

Dayo_UK

11:47 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



djmick200

GG - only posted this morning that there is still flux to come.

I think/hope that for most sites we are only seeing first order effect on that DC.....

djmick200

11:49 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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petehall can you say what sectors you watch?

What i look at is all over the place.

Dayo_UK
I hope so too ;-)

Kangol

11:54 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Me 2. I have so many plans with that domain. If things were over now I would feel like taking a goal in minute 90 in a football game after dominating the game.

zimba

11:59 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Going on past experiences, does anybody have any idea how long it will take for "9" to pass through all DC's?

(my first post in 3 years of reading through here, better late than never i suppose)

lufc1955

12:10 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I still think that on the .9 there is still flux to come or they have withdrawn the original J3 on the .9 because the results are inferior to what they were even last night. I think we will be waiting for several more days before G gets this right.

reseller

12:13 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Salon99

>>For Reseller: we covered a vast array of topics. To avoid academic research bias, I sectorized the group to cover different search arenas: research, hobbies, commercial, and so forth. Also note that these guys are not school kids.<<

Thanks for feedback. Much appreciated.

I wish you stay with us and start a new thread about the same. That would give us the right place to discuss the subject. I think your subject deserves a thread by itself.

You are here among friends :-)

zeus

12:35 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo have you seen any real fix on the non www issue? I dont think so the only thing I have seen is that sometimes on a site:domain.com search the homepage comes first, but still no ranking, supplemental results, a lot of non www in the index and if the jagger 3 realy has begun it does not look good.

Dayo_UK

12:42 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



Zeus

Not to much so far.

Just because the site:domain.com shows domain.com first does not really mean any improvements.

However, I am seeing some sites where search site:www.domain.com www.domain.com shows the www.domain.com first - these sites are what I am watching at the moment - They do show slight improvements.

EG - I wonder ever so slightly if the first ordering is obv. what we are seeing by just doing a site search - the second ordering is actually applying rank to the pages based on the first ordering. (I dont know - just guessing)

The first ordering however, is still not 100% correct on sites that have problems.

Wibfision

12:52 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Salon99, I don't post a lot but I have enjoyed reading your research. I think it is a shame for you to be frightened away - I certainly find your posts to be much better thought out than posts of the nature "my site's number one for keyword blah on data centre blah blah therefore this must be Jagger3 / Google rocks / Google is broken"

Pico_Train

12:53 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Something is weird.

I have a site with homepage PR of 4.

So the interior pages should all be, baring any strange activities/links, PR 4 or 3.

But this is the weird thing, the page is pretty new, only been through one PR update and I am quite sure there are no links to it other than interior links.

So why is it PR5?

Hmmmm.

Sticky me if you want to see.

adfree

12:55 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Absolutely the same here, very strange: site (120 pages) established in June, hp receives a PR3, sub pages PR4. No idea what's going on.

donelson

1:03 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Salon99 -- Please Comment on this --

Now, like it or not, as a measure of quality, the tests were sound. The sample size was reasonable. The results conclusive. Google was vastly inferior to MSN and Yahoo on this measure.

However, if your tests were done in the last six weeks, you'll have to re-do them.
Google listings have been in terrible flux during that time, and most (not all) here will agree that the changes have not always been for the better.

Personally, I have seen some terrible results in the few weeks.

So, your ratings "sweep", like in radio/TV/print, depends on when you do it.

I would be interested in seeing what your experiences are over (a) a wide range of DCs, and (b) a weekly basis. Only then can we tell what the actual end-user experience will be.

Dayo_UK

1:03 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



Yes, my homepage got a PR0 last PR update - but some internal pages went up in PR.

Spanish_eye

1:03 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This gets stranger by the minute.

If I check .9 for my main key phrase from my desktop PC, my site is at number 1.

If I check the same DC from my laptop.....my site is nowhere!?

What?

Now, where did I see that plumbers course advertised?

Erku

1:06 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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IS Jagger 3 already done?

Has it psread through all the DCs and visible to the public?

Thank you.

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