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Liam
[edited by: liamgt at 10:06 am (utc) on Oct. 31, 2002]
Google seems to have two distinct spidering activies:
The first is the regular spidering of sites each month which contributes to the dance/update at the end of the month.
The second is the repeated spidering of sites throughout the month that Google perceives as important for 'everflux' updates - intermediate regular mini-updates of page content information only, no additional backlink or PR calculations, sometimes displayed with a date or 'fresh' tag on the SERPs.
When the dance starts, www2 and www3 use the regular spidering information, and discard anything gathered in the meantime for everflux. This is why some sites are seeing 'old' pages on www2 and www3. After the update moves onto the main index, the everflux spidering will start again, and pages will hopefully be updated to the latest versions.
If anyone can expand on this (are there distinct spider names, is the same spider used, is Google likely to figure everflux info future dances etc?) then your input would be appreciated.
Does Google actually crawl during the update process or is it a case of sifting through and indexing what it's already got? I haven't seen any activity from googlebot on my server during the past few days.
Bottom line, I guess just like to see a little page rank as a reward for endless e-mails to people grovelling for links. But when?
I know, be patient. . .right?
Your update is way better than last months and my listings are pretty much back to the way they were!
WE CAN EAT AGAIN:)
Still seeing some spammy competitors but I am sure you will boot them soon!
Keep up the good work and NO-MORE last month scares PLEASE :)
Congradulations nervous_seo!
cheers
DoU
<edited>.... AND I've just seen it go back down again! Maybe a glitch :(
</edited>
politicsandlabor, it usually takes a few days for the switchover. Always a good excuse to take a long weekend.
Ah, now, GG, you see, there is this event coming up, first Tuesday in November, don't ya know... I know you've heard of it (insert smiley face here);)
All that matters is what happens between now and then. After that, some of us "foot soldiers" will go out for a few pints of "black and tan" and then get back to our regular lives.
Ironically, I expect a (small) boost in our ratings NEXT month.. . (which won't do us any good by then)
Rookie question: I've started a site map at the root level of our site directory, just to make it easier for your bots to find all of our pages. Am I on the right track? Or a waste of time? We post a lot of new text content, usually, every day, and my hope is for it to get indexed ASAP because it's often "breaking" developments.
this is a good thing to do.
I'm thinking that if you would go to the effort of signing a ton of guestbooks, you probably also were doing some shady things with the code on you site. If Google actually is penalizing just for a site appearing in a lot of guestbooks, SEOs would be using that trick to sabotage their competition. Shouldn't be expensive to hire some bored kid to sign a lot of guestbooks with the competitions URL.
LOL - sorry still nervous but more relaxed now - :)
>And, for that matter, I seriously think you overestimate
>our influence...
WW is a excellent point of contact between Google and the guys who really care about Search Engines and pay adwords, that is, us.
Google is a very smart company, and is taking advantage of it. Other old style, more shelf righteous companies, will just ignore us, loosing touch with reality. I do think the exchanges here, no matter how "colourful", are positive to both sides.
>Sorry I missed you earlier Marcos. The next time we do
>business cards I'll ask if I can have "soulless propaganda
>instrument" in addition to my normal title.
Nah, we will like more to see the GoogleGuy Title printed on it. I think people in this forum would actually pay to see that. :)
Do you mean, that if a PR7 site links to a penalized PR0 site, the PR7 site will also get PR0 the next time?
Other keyword phrases where most of my traffic found me also disappeared. Can anyone point me to the right person to chat with....see one year of development being flushed.
northweb.
Hope it doesnt change too much, I'm no. 1 for the first time!
Hope it doesnt change too much, I'm no. 1 for the first time!
I've been following the monthly Google updates for nearly a year, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's not to count on anything--good or bad--until the update has settled down. Still, it's always good to be hopeful. At the moment, I've got some new #1 positions in this month's update that I'd like to keep. :-)
Hope it's a little bug,
but can't imaging why www2 goes to www sometimes when while we 'claim' our backlinks aren't showing, meaning not all sites are backlinked.
---> can somebody confirm this: THE SItes that were everfluxing last month are not added yet in the database of G.?
ps. kinda funny, that fast has everything picked up. This update round my Vote goes to fast.
Another 1 of these weird updates and in my opinion Fast is better than G, now Fast has fresher and newer pages than google and they have more sites indexed.
Great.:(
What really worries me, is that last months everfluxing sites are not added, at least not my everfluxing sites.
What do they expect from me, te adjust the pages everyday this month so i can have another everfluxing month? I don't think so. Nope. Won't do. I've gone far enough.
edit> yeah helpmebe1 you're right, i'd better not say that.
[edited by: ikbenhet1 at 5:17 pm (utc) on Nov. 1, 2002]
And seriously..not giving up.. if they dropped every single link to my site.. well then all hell will be breaking loose... ok..maybe dmoz is ruled out for this month because of their little mishap..but noway should all the rest... including yahoo! Theirs noway they dropped every single link to me... nope..nope..nope..not accepting that answer... Im not hearing that... nope... not gonna happen... :)
by the way.. I still have PR even without a single link showing but it is really fluctuating all over .. keeps dropping then raising like a yo yo
