October 2002 Google Update

Official

[liamgt]

Definately getting different results on backward links for yahoo. www showing 657k and www2 and www3 showing 654k. Results for CNN are also different. Looks like the real deal.

Liam

[edited by: liamgt at 10:06 am (utc) on Oct. 31, 2002]

[Tropical Island]

One thing I'm noticing is that there are a lot of dupicate entries for the same site. For instance www.xxx/index.htm is on one page and www.xxx/other.htm is on the next.

In our case a few of our internal pages are showing in www2 and www3 however our front page which has been number 3 for months in the main term has disapeared. Hopefully this will straighten out before this is over. Hope our server change on Oct. 7 isn't causing the problems.

[Helpmebe1]

Is anyone having a problem with their links? I see no incoming links for our site and I know they couldnt of all been dropped.. some are from dmoz and yahoo. Also the PR took a drop by one notch... Anyone noticing this too?

[wreck3d]

my site is STILL cached from augest 29th. wonderful;\

[Total Paranoia]

I agree with quiet_man. I have reported a site 3 times in the last two months for blatent hidden text and a redirect, its still there in the top 10 results for hundreds of phrases. I guess his day will come... :)

[Go60Guy]

Thank you God!

[ikbenhet1]

WHAT IS GOOING ON? WHERE MY BACKLINKS AT?

If my backlinks don't show NOW then they won't show all month right? But my links'r in there why does google not show..?

[edit] uuuh, there showing now? never mind

Hey, on www2 i have 0 backlinks,

and in www i have a lotta backlinks.

[trueMarketing]

Wow! This is rocking so far. www2 and www3 are giving me the willies. It's giving me the preliminary PR results from my website when I click on my link too.
Seems like I went from page 50-60 to page 2!

It also seems that my PR went from a 3 to a 7. I guess all those late night submissions and relevant cross-linking, updated content, and a little carpel tunnel syndrome is paying off.

I just hop it stays this way.

l8r

[subway]

not bad so far, I am getting a better idea of Google's long term goal.

[mahlon]

Cool, I just noticed that a site that recently ranked better than mine using invisible text is GONE!:) I reported it a while back, could Google finally have gone and dropped those sites using invisible text?

Cheers :)

[Helpmebe1]

ikbenhet1
Ditto! I have NO backlinks on www2 or 3 but have them in www?

[ikbenhet1]

YESSSS, then there still beiing crawled and still to be added!(i hope)

[Helpmebe1]

hope is right...no idea why dmoz and yahoo links would dissapear..those are solid

<edit> Could this mean our ranks can change?

[stace]

Hola guys

I am not seeing any real changes in my keyword areas based on this update - although I'm happy that a new site that I added 1 week ago made it into the database in just a few days (could it be related at all to being included in my adwords campaigns?) I did use the "add URL" thing the day the site went live.

I agree that I've seen a lot of new sites cropping up in the last couple of months in the top of the serps for relatively competitive terms- sites with nothing to offer except a keyword loaded URL. It seems like PR is weighted a little less and keyword URLS a little more. While this is great for my new site (which will be content intensive and therefore DESERVES to be at the top :) - overall it seems to open the door for spammy sites to dominate.

[djgreg]

GoogleGuy:
I have a question about backward links:
Something strange is happening with 2 of my sites:
The one is placed on result page 3, the other is a Nr. 1 Site and I know for sure that they have many Links from other sites. (No Crosslinking or somth. like that).
But if I type in link:... Google answers that there aren't any backlinks. Maybe it is because they are .info Domains?
But I have other .info Domains where the links are showing up.

[Helpmebe1]

dj gregers... your not the only one missing the links... seems your the third in this post..somethings up..wonder if this will affect rankings though once they show, assuming they do show by the end

[dauction]

Google Guy..glad you are here ..here is a prime example of the linking nonsense ..nothing but link farming to get to the top..simply check back links..plus the site has nothing to do with the search term baseball posters

[thunderpaste]

I am still getting beat by two companies that are linking multiple sites together to inflate their pagerank. They only have links from their own sites. I was hoping Google would catch on but no.

Should I report it as spam?

[jamsy]

HelpmeBe1 make that 4 ;)

Missing own internal page backlinks and also Yahoo :(

[Helpmebe1]

Damn... I am assuming these results that we are seein are going to change quit a bit then?

[ikbenhet1]

what i do find weird, is that the backlinks for yahoo do show. guess it is out of my hands now, and nothing left but waiting.

[wreck3d]

whoa! my cache was just updated ot www3, and it's from oct 29th? google gonna start crawling sites right before the update?

[thunderpaste]

I have pages that got "freshed" on the 29th also.

[dauction]

The idea thunderpaste is that you need to form lining partnerships better than the next guy..thats whats it's all about...

For all bull about making the search's more relevant for the enduser and having good content and all that nonsense..the truth is build linking partnerships and googles algo will make sure you get to the top...

But then again it's a free engine and thats what you get with free engines irrelevant junk..

[Total Paranoia]

dauction >> But then again it's a free engine and thats what you get with free engines irrelevant junk.. <<

Ouch! someone got hurt on this update.

[tommy]

My SERP rankings are dropping steadily with every update since Sept but the number of hits I get are climbing steadily. Strange. Could it be that users are wading through three pages of garbage to get to my page?

[Helpmebe1]

Ink,
No yahoo for me..still at 0 links... I think it will be the wait to see what happens...the dance has only begun.. I suspect changes will happen? to many people have their links missing for things not to change by the end

[JonnyWales]

Tommy,

Similar thing is happening with me with respect to my Adwords campaigns. Prior to last months update my CTR was pretty consistent at 1.9%-2.0% each month. Since then they have been c.3.0% (50% increase). My reasoning is that people searching have been less satisfied with the results and consequently are more likely to click on Adwords.

[quiet_man]

Helpmebe1 - a couple of my sites are also showing no backlinks, including long-standing Yahoo and DMOZ links. Never seen it before at dance time, so don't know if its just temporary.

wreck3d - yep, seeing a few Oct 29 'fresh' around (just not mine!)

dauction - even if you're suffering, no need to be offensive. I hardly think anyone could describe Google's results as 'irrelevant junk'.

[mahlon]

I hope the results on ww3 get rolled over to www! Things are looking super great!

[wreck3d]

things WERE looking great.. but now the 'freshed' cache is replaced with august 29th again, and my beautiful listings are no more. This just part of the update and things are being shifted around? or should i worry?