October 2002 Google Update

Official

[liamgt]

Definately getting different results on backward links for yahoo. www showing 657k and www2 and www3 showing 654k. Results for CNN are also different. Looks like the real deal.

Liam

[edited by: liamgt at 10:06 am (utc) on Oct. 31, 2002]

[politicsandlabor]

Has anybody noticed that for like the last 25 pages, this thread has NOTHING to do with it's stated topic?

I thought that "sticking to the posted topic" was going to be one of the changes in direction for WW in general, and this board in particular, that Brett announced a couple of months ago?

Am I missing something?

[excell]

And why do I always feel as if it is MY fault, bowing out now. You are right but new people may not always have read what admin said some time ago etc. :)

[nutsandbolts]

True politicsandlabor, but in some ways it does mop up the general chat on Google nicely. There will no doubt be a nice and funky thread once the dance has settled so people can really analyse the results..

[steven q urkel]

havent seen somebody that there were about 560 answers to this post and one second on the other there were only 540?

[heini]

Steven, we move around some posts from here to there from time to time, seeing what belongs to where etc. Makes for a better usability. Participants get of course noticed.
BTW: welcome to the board!

[sirlion]

Another PR0 question. I just put up a new site 3 weeks ago and was almost immediatly spidered by Google. Since then I've been spidered 26 times. I have about 30 backlinks although none showing yet. That is how Google found me. This site is now showing PR0! I am not smart enough to pull any spam tricks. My sites are simple, rich in text, with a few affiliate links. Could the previous owner of this domain trashed it so much that Google just spits on it now? I just recently bought it and was suprised to find it available. It's in a fairly competetive area. ?

[john316]

Sirloin,

That scenario is entirely possible. GG mentioned that some domains have engaged in such egregious past behaviour that they have a "special" place in the ban list.

If it only 3 weeks old...I wouldn't draw any conclusions yet.

[lowbwtom]

How often is the average site crawled by google? My logs show no evidence of crawling, but the index has changed. Do they use some other crawler agent name than "googlebot"?

Is the Google Update the crawling or the update of the index? or both?

[Powdork]

sirloin
Thats normal. Any of your baclinks wont be indexed until the update that follows the deep crawl in which they were found. That was longer than three weeks ago and should be starting again presently. Your site was found by the freshbot (google should rename it). When fresh results return again your site should be included in those results. That will just have to do until the next update.

[ikbenhet1]

call me stupid, but thy the heck are there fresh stamps? Doesn't that always happen after the crawl is finished? Why am i not everfluxing in the serps? the caches are diffent than the current versions.

[jk3210]

>>GG mentioned that some domains have engaged in such egregious past behaviour that they have a "special" place in the ban list.<<

Over the years I've monitored my main competitor's site and done SE battle with him for what seems like an eternity.

During the early days I was always stumped as to why he always came out on top of the serps. Even though I had no clue what I was doing, sometimes I would poke around his site to see how his was different from mine, and how he was able to maintain such high (usually #1) rankings.

His site always contained the strangest design elements; for example, there was always these rows and rows of little dots at the bottom of his pages, like someone had typed in hundreds of periods for no apparent reason. Now why would someone go to the trouble to do that!?!?

And then for a while there were these strange frame-sets; why on earth would anyone ever create a frame set at 99-100%?

The punch-line is that, even though his domain-name is the most desirable for this region and probably worth a couple of hundred grand for the name alone, it has been grey-barred for 2+ YEARS!

So I can tell you from first-hand experience that a "'special' place in the ban list" means that a site gets stomped-on so bad that you'd need dental records to indentify it.

[Brett_Tabke]

Well - very large thread here - lets continue with a new one.

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[scorpion]

Does the google update every month on the 1st? Lots of my sites just got added. Or is it every 2 months? Or quarterly? Thanks.

Also, I am not sure WHAT I am doing to get my sites listed. I have 3 theories:

1. i used the addurl link
2. the site is listed in Yahoo (not all of them though)
3. one of my sites in Yahoo/Google has a link to the site that now appears in google.

Which one seems most plausible to explain why I was crawled?

[Slade]

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^^^ Google Knowledgebase

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^^^Google Update History

[nancyb]

most likely it is #2 and #3. Also, do any other sites that are listed in google link to your site? Google loves to follow links.

slade beat me to it