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The results look really good.. hopefully this will reflect across all the datacenters soon. Seems like the spammier sites I compete against have moved down while the good honest pages have moved up.
>When it comes to researching individuals - Googling a person, etc - then Google's results are more relevant.
This may be due to simple economics. People, including spammers, tend to focus mostly on Google. SEOs tend not to focus on Ink SERPs.
webmaster [at] google.com or the spam report form. Either way, use the keyword "floridaupdate" so we can pick out reports.
GG, Are there other keywords besides floridaupdate that attract your attention? ;)
I always report spammers (real spammers: cloaking/noframes/noscript/frameclipping/hiddenlinks etc.) via the spam report form, but none of my reports seem to be dealt with.
Think like all the other dances...will relax, watch the race tomorrow and check on Monday.
do you guys think making h1 tags and h2 takes with a font size of 1 is spam or a "blackhat" site?
Hi monsterisp,
This code
<font size="1"><h1>ghfgdhdg</h1></font> doesnt reduces the size.
but this code <h1><font size="1"><ghfgdhdg</font></h1> does.
What I think is a good algo will take care of this, the innermost tag gets the credit. The google's algo is the best so can expect this and more.I dont think it will be consider as a spam but surely you will not get the complete credit for h1. If I am wrong please correct me.
Thanks
Aji
First, looks like www-gv is producing normal (albeit slighly modified) results. Please confirm if you are seeing this too.
Second, also looks like google directory reverted back to what it was before its most recent update.
Just observing for now,
iamama
I think the reemergence of the directory link is a positive sign. I'm optimistic that things will sort themselves out. Give them some time to shuffle in all the data.
This is unrelated to the current update... except I would guess that since it has been two weeks since the Directory did update that -in has been intentionally held back as a reserve. That would explain why it's serps seem so old and so different from the other datacenters at this point.
Showing Directory links in the serps and the little icon on the toolbar is also unrelated to any of the above. If in fact this is more like a traditional dance perhaps we will see the new links and toolbar icon (and updated pagerank) 3/4 or so of the way into the updated, a couple days from now.
i agree that -in is different than the rest of the datacenters, however, all of the rest of the datacenters are showing the same results they were showing (for my industry) about 5-6 months ago for the top 20 or so results. (don't know about the rest of the results). i also don't remember the exact date, but it was before the last major update. anyway, everyone else's mileage may vary, but this is how my results are shaking out. i am going on the assumption that this was just phase one of the update and that once the rest of the algos / filters kick in, that i will see this revert to newer results. (fingers crossed).
Things look fairly settled already, looks like it's going to be a grim however-many-weeks/months ahead.
While se's have every right to change how they rank sites it still is patently evident that viewing a site/page as being the number one relevant result for months or even years and then consigning it to oblivion is proof of a serious flaw, or perhaps of people trying to overmanage things.
Its a good technology that google bought a while ago, and started using with Adwords several weeks ago, but still needs to iron out way too many quirks both in AdWords, and here (if that is what's going on).
This time they even lost our directory listing! That, I just don't get. We're in DMOZ but dropped from the Google Directory?
*bangs head against desk*
Does this not signal a ban?
do you guys think making h1 tags and h2 takes with a font size of 1 is spam or a "blackhat" site?
Are your human readers supposed to read that?
If not, - it's certainly SPAM.
Still there are some issues with headings. How about having headings the same font size as text but in a different colour (eg: h1 red, text black)?
This way, their function as a structuring element would not decrease but would Google be able to distinguish that from a spamming attempt?
Also, how about CSS?
Should having h1 150 percent of normal text count any more than 110 percent?
BTW, using special CSS classes, it should be very easy to make headings look exactly the same as the rest of the page(or even hide them altogether).
Seems to me that such filters would only catch the most clumsy spammers - along with the occasional innocent person.
Laurenz
Does this not signal a ban?
If I was a younger, less experienced webmaster I might be worried about that. But Google doesn't ban sites for no reason. And there's absolutely no reason to ban mine. Plus, the subpages still show up fine. Just the index page is the issue, along with the directory listing.
This proves to me that Google has more data to bring in, and if they don't have more data, they have definitely made some mistakes that I know they'll fix in the updates to come. We must have faith in Google (until they IPO!) :)
aaaahhhhhh!
this update was brutal.
