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AlexK, that's a different domain. But the point is very well taken. You've found a pretty obscure query (~295 results) that the keyword stuffing spammers like to target. I'll check this out in more detail.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:03 am (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]
Again, this is a very unusual update, usually when a site gets affected in an update you can figure out the problem and often fix it, this one, because it's in several sections, the 3 separate jagger updates, and the previous activity from bourbon, and some things after that, make any movement at all risky until you get some sense of what has happened, and what Google settled on.
Once the serps settle, you can see where your site is, do backlink analysis on the sites that beat you, etc, then you can start getting an idea of what Google is using now. But it's almost certainly going to be a much more complex system, even with the problems so many report, than it was before. And definitely not as easy to spam.
I've just done my first one so it'll be interested to see if anything happens - sneaky little guy has been parked at the top for months with hidden links.
How long does it normally take to get a site removed- if ever?
Perhaps they decided to make each update so confusing and last so long that we'll eventually just become bored of them? :)
Exactly. And I know why: Google has secret connections to the pharmaceutical industry.
They start an update, webmasters starting to get upset and need sedatives. The longer an update lasts, the more we need.
This is Google's real business model - cooperation with the pharmaceutical industy. Forget about adsense.
>>The fat lady is very patient of late!<<
I guess Mr. Inigo Montoya keeps serving heavy Bacon Polenta to the fat lady, and she neither can walk nor sing anymore. In fact she felt asleep on Inigo's disk at the plex :-)
I especially wonder at the moment if Jagger3 is on some DCs (Eg with a twist) - or if Jagger3 has just gone back into hiding for a little while.
>>Google has secret connections to the pharmaceutical industry.
Yes!
Connections to the pharmaceutical industry is in fashion!
See more about chicken..
And as you might know you can tell a women to relax only during 3 weeks of a month
So you are sure she is still pre-menopause ;-)
tigger
Have you mentioned your nick in the report? Reports with familiar nicks will be personally looked at by GG IMO. For the reports I submitted, they removed the sites after about 4-5 days.
Best of Luck to All
Yep, so it will be interesting to see if it's still around in a week. It seems so unfair that many webmasters have lost out big time (myself included) and the cheaters still seem to be hanging on -
Let me see..
No, my site is still lost..
Go to the thread, select the printable version, the search (ctrl+F) for "GoogleGuy -"
hope that helps someone
Go to the thread, select the printable version, the search (ctrl+F) for "GoogleGuy -"
Sorry, you will end up seeing all the posts that call out for GoogleGuy :)
I guess Mr. Inigo Montoya keeps serving heavy Bacon Polenta to the fat lady, and she neither can walk nor sing anymore. In fact she felt asleep on Inigo's disk at the plex :-)
LOL :)
Perhaps this is now J3 with a twist AND a shake.
Thanks!
I'll keep an eye on every DC..
[edited by: normasp at 10:23 am (utc) on Nov. 8, 2005]
Yes, was useful though (as Brett probably ponders whether to remove the printable version due to bandwidth.....)
>>>Perhaps this is now J3 with a twist AND a shake.
Dont know - I liked the site ordering as you could see what Google thought the main page of the site were - I suppose they might have removed it, as Steveb noted it was easier to see the amount of canonical mistakes.
Eazygoin
I am not really seeing increased Crawl - Although I would expect a crawl once the whole thing settles down.
Did anyone notice DCs crashing?
OK :) - Dont think things are settled down - you might be right though. My site is not a good one to monitor for Googlebot activity - as it has problems.
Oh BTW - if it is Mozilla Googlebot - then I dont even count it as a crawl anymore - just an attack to try and bring sites down. ;)
>>>I'm now wondering if something has gone wrong again. Maybe J3 will appear for a 3rd time!
That is what I am wondering (of course Google would not say gone wrong - perhaps it needed more work, a change somewhere) - I expect it to return - but wonder.
GG not said much for a while - but he might not be able to comment on it anyway.
That is what I am wondering (of course Google would not say gone wrong - perhaps it needed more work, a change somewhere) - I expect it to return - but wonder
Yes, 'gone wrong' are the wrong choice of words.
GG not said much for a while - but he might not be able to comment on it anyway.
It wouldn't be the first time that's happened this update, either.
Perhaps they got something right on J2 with a twist (or whatever the hell it is) and now want to re-apply J3 to it again.
Re-build and re-build until it's perfect?
You'd need a bit of inside knowledge about how J1, J2 and J3 work together to be able to know for sure.
Our resident search engine cheerleader steveb seems a knowledgeable person... I wonder what his thoughts are?
>>GG not said much for a while - but he might not be able to comment on it anyway. <<
As you might recall, I wrote yesterday
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This is my own feeling on Jagger3. I feel that GoogleGuy has expected more of Jagger3 than what he got now. Matt sound as such too.
This morning you can also read between the lines of GG the same theme.
But as I said, its my feeling, and I mightbe wrong of course.
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So I guess what happened is this. GoogleGuy went to the algo engineers and told them:
Listen you guys! Stop serving to me those half-and-half algos.
You go home and return back with better ones that reseller, Dayo_Uk and steveb like, or just stay home and start shining your resumes :-)
From the sites I run, I can see that I stepped over a couple of lines and boy... I almost got my toes burnt.
How quick can you say "CLEAN UP”?
I have had drops in a handful of my major searches. But they are in the top 500 whew. … overall sites above them are all very good clean sites.
Yes it pays to keep it clean and be responsible if you are a Webmaster for an authoritive site. Use common sense and don't abuse it. If you don’t quite understand that line you may have to learn the hard way.
My Advise: Is be careful if you try to pull the wool over Goggles eyes they are very smart and will be getting smarter, if they want to continue being the global phenonemum that they are. There will no doubt be a few casualties on their quest for better results and maybe the odd Civilian... more likely the ones whom stepped on the tracks or close to them...
Bretts [webmasterworld.com ] 26 steps are still working for me!
From someone who started with only a quarter and idea of what SEO was. Google and Webmaster world have certainly made me a better Webmaster and the sites I create are a better experience for the user as a result.
Cheers Brett, Crew and the Big G
