Part 4 Update Jagger

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from:
[webmasterworld.com...]

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reseller, Jagger3 ended up having less emphasis on canonicals. I plan to make that a theme in my feedback to people at work though.

AlexK, that's a different domain. But the point is very well taken. You've found a pretty obscure query (~295 results) that the keyword stuffing spammers like to target. I'll check this out in more detail.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 1:03 am (utc) on Nov. 12, 2005]

[taps]

I can see Jagger 3 start spreading from our four well known servers onto:

216.239.37.104
216.239.37.147
216.239.37.105

Results are not yet reliable. It's switching.

Go on Jagger!

[walkman]

LegalAlien,
how many days before the dissatisfied report /SOS and the traffic improvement?

thanks,

[Erku]

Is 66.102.7.104 the final Jagger results?

[petehall]

Is there any hope for sites that rank well on 66.102.9.104 but rank very low on 66.102.7.104 which now seem to be the final results?

In my opinion, yes.

66.102.7.104 may have the majority in terms of data centres / current live presence, however it's been like that ever since J3 started on 66.102.9.104.

Something to bare in mind is that all data centres (to my knowledge) are live somewhere.

66.102.9.104 data is live in some areas based in the South of the UK.

Some of my contacts have been able to see 66.102.9.104 live on Google UK since Saturday.

Don't underestimate the power of the 9 :)

[Jessica]

Oooh, i like the 66.102.9.104 results.

[petehall]

Is 66.102.7.104 the final Jagger results?

No, people make things up as they go along.

[allcam]

In UK, I still get different SERPs (google.co.uk) when I use different ISP. If I use BT broadband my ranking is slightly better, if I use NTL broadband then my ranking is 3-4 positions lower

[edited by: allcam at 7:01 pm (utc) on Nov. 7, 2005]

[Armi]

@Erku

No, I think 66.102.9.104 because this results where shown particularly on 7.104 today.

[DumpedbyG]

<<<Is 66.102.7.104 the final Jagger results?>>>

No, where have you been?

[pteam]

It looks as if jagger3 results are on the google.com here in northeast usa. This the same for everybody else?

[sonny]

not yet in RI, unless I have to delete cookies or something

[Erku]

but then, which DC shows steady jagger 3 results?

[driwashsolutions]

here in northeast usa

Pretty sure there is more than on DC for the northeast. I traveled 60 miles from my home, and had a different DC.

[Armi]

I have made the following observation:

A project of me has a large duplicate content problem with very old supplemental URLs (most from February/March 2004). Also I have the canonical URL problem (reachable on [domain.com...] and [domain.com...] till the middle of 2004).

A large part of the data centers has lost all supplementals by the end of November 2004 in the middle of October 2005! Because of this the filter disappeared.

Since Saturday the old supplementals have been reappear on some data centers - and the filter reappear again.

Unless on 66.102.9.104: There are the old supplementals without a filter!
And Jagger 3 shall improve handling with the supplementals and the canonical url problem!

[DumpedbyG]

Erku,

no stable J3 yet.

[steveb]

Yo Google, could you please inject the tweak/fix from last week into all the datacenters. When you do that all this "I like the results because my site ranks good" talk can change based on the return of all the lost sites from Sept22 and hopefully before. Without that, the navel gazers don't even know what their actual results are.

This reshuffling of incomplete results is an awfully big waste of electrons. The update has been going for weeks and it hasn't even really started yet.

[taps]

Erku,

check
66.102.11.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.99

[Hollywood]

Seeing major changes in Southern California (USA) Big jumps and improved listings. FWIW

[fredde]

The rollout of JIII (66.102.9.104) has begun on 216.239.37.99, just temporarely visible.

[j_do]

Seeing it also on 216.239.37.104

[2by4]

claus, post 606
"Right this moment I'm seeing (or, at least I think I'm seeing) significantly improved results for product specific queries. Greater precision, that is. Live on google.com."

I just tested it on complex multi term product information search that gave pretty bad results in the past, like you said, and got the same quality results you're commenting on: very good, product information from company, lots of good review sites. Very solid results. Little or no spam in top 10.

At least some of Jagger seems to be working.

[Armi]

I donīt see the 66.102.9.104 results on

216.239.37.99
216.239.37.104

now!

[Kimkia]

I have recovered almost all positions that I lost on September 22 and gained a few exciting extras. One difference though is that pre-September, my home page was usually the indexed result, whereas now I'm finding that my section indexes are rating high for their keywords.

This is a better result for the searcher and gets them where they want to go more efficiently.

[CainIV]

I am seeing good results from a 'user perspective' in some of the areas I delve in. Although I am not ranking as well as before, I must digress that the results, to me look more valid than before J1. Our site, while well linked, does not provide the level of information that the first 4 do, and it seems apporopriate that we are 5th for our search term.

A ways to go, but at least this is looking promising. Now if the supps and canons get fixed we might have something to work with:)

[Joop]

I still don't understand if my default google (identified from the cached pages) is showing as 66.102.9.104, why the results are different from when i enter 66.102.9.104 into the browser and search from there.

Please could someone explain?

[brokenbricks]

Just sit back and wait for the flux to simmer down.

[Joop]

but brokenbricks, i don't want to just sit back... I'm just trying to understand how it works, that's all.

[black]

imo no-one can understand until it ends :)
nice rime! :D

[Webmeister]

no-one can understand until it ends

If everyone would figure that out, this thread would have a few hundred less replies on it.

[mickfrancis]

I'm far from being a web professional although my main site has been doing very well for the last two years on Google, being always 3rd or 4th for the main keyword. Since Jagger it has gone down to 119th so am pulling out what little hair I have left.
When looking at 66.102.7.104 I am back in 4th position but on 66.102.9.104 i'm 119th. Also all my pages have increased by 1 in Google ranking and my main index page now ranks 5. Can one of you clever people tell me which of the above two results are likely to be the final one so I can get a decent nights sleep.
TIA