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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

CrackSeo

11:11 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What ever may be the result, Yahoo was fast enough. But Google is really testing the patience :(. Is there any end to this update?

Dayo_UK

11:15 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Taps

Day Before Yesterday - 200 response 0 bytes sent.
Yesterday - 200 response 0 bytes sent.

Made change to page.

Today 200 response - 7589k (whatever it was) sent.

Strange.

zikos

11:16 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well boys jagger is spreding.I am the first to discover it
64.233.189.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.63.104

Dayo_UK

11:20 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Yep - Spreading.

Gold star for Zikos.

Intresting some of the changes that I thought were Jagger3 related have not spread - therefore something else is happening to one of my sites on some DCs - including the original Jagger3 - but not the new Jagger3s.

Hmmmz - stress.

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 11:22 am (utc) on Nov. 16, 2005]

zikos

11:20 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Its Simple on the above DC,s a page from my site went from nr670 to nr8

taps

11:34 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Zikos: sorry, bud. Check #838.

Dayo: Maybe you've changed the right thing. As long as it sends data, everything should be fine. But I'd keep an eye on that. Maybe something goes wrong with the handling of header requests.

Kangol

11:36 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[216.239.53.104...] is different then 66.102
I rank better on 216.239.53.104. Where is J3?

Dayo_UK

11:38 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Kangol

Yes, it appears that J3 is not really bring stability accross the DCs.

I can see the ordering effect on J3 spreading - however, I have totally different rank on the J3 dcs.

Perhaps it will just take a while for it to fully transfer to each DCs.

g1smd

11:38 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> changed my site over to css and lost all listings. <<

I can't see how "changing to CSS" could have any effect but positive: leaner code, semantic markup (you did use block elements like headings, paragraphs, lists, tables, and forms right?), easier spidering, and so on.

Run your HTML through the W3C validator, and make sure all your titles and meta descriptions are different for each page. Check your linking with Xenu LinkSleuth. There must be some screwup somewhere. Make sure that non-www redirects (301) to www for all pages of the site, too.

I helped a site convert to CSS earlier in the year, and rankings have all improved, and visitor numbers have doubled.

[edited by: g1smd at 11:45 am (utc) on Nov. 16, 2005]

zikos

11:39 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



it looks like that the first 2 jagger3
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
are there as a guideline while the new ones
64.233.189.104
66.102.7.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.63.104
are post jagger 3 including the flux.
My 2 p's

Kangol

11:43 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanx Dayo_UK,
I see 2 sets of results. They are almost the same only on "post jagger 3 including the flux" DCs I rank 10 spots better.

lee_sufc

11:43 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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for me, the results on the following look excellent
64.233.189.104
66.102.7.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.63.104

...but after the past few weeks, I have learnt not to get too excited as these will probably change!

Kangol

11:45 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same thing here. Good results but they will probably change soon or never go online...

taps

11:46 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Things are looking really good on some DCs. Are we talking about tree different result sets now? Jagger 2, Jagger 3 and Jagger 3 SP1?

j_do

11:49 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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@lee_sufc: I know what you mean. These results are almost too good to be true (for my site at least).

One thing I noticed: a subdomain spammer who got ditched previously is back again in these new (?) results.

WebPixie

11:59 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wake me up when it's over.

I'm up, I'm down I'm the same. Doesn't matter it will all change when jagger 3.67 comes out in a few days on three datacenters.

I hope this update is fixing something, because right now the results are very close to what they were pre-jagger in my market. If at the end of all this the SERPs have barely changed... What a massive waste of time this thing has been.

colin_h

12:06 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hi Webpixie,

That's exactly what I've found. A lot of pain and very little difference to the serps. Maybe some movement in favour of big brand names, all in all I still think that more damage has been done by our fellow webmasters, seeing if they can knock off the competition.

Cheers Colin

taps

12:30 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seems as it has stopped spreading. I see no further movement. Anyone else does?

normasp

12:50 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



is spreding jagger 3 or not?
where?

petehall

12:54 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to Jagger 3.566372736437842

Or thereabout.

taps

1:07 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe this is Jagger 3.141 or in brief Jagger Pi...

feelfree

1:07 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What about spam reports?

Did GoggleGuy stop checking them or are they too busy with Jagger3?

I have a really hardwork spammer.

Creating very fast pages and linking them hiddenly.

You must see that one.

I already have reported it.

Regards

petehall

1:09 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Jagger Pi

LOL

Maybe it's just got stuck at an infinite level on 3.333.......

tigger

1:14 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>What about spam reports?

when you report put GG name in the notes and your nic thats what I did, and it worked

zimba

1:35 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have any idea on how long Jagger may take to spread, perhaps someone who has past experience from other updates?

Zikos was right, its the first time I have seen J3 spread to another DC, it must be moving. Well done Zikos!

Eazygoin

1:42 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Something quite drastic is happening. I had yet another deep crawl this morning.

The sites Google page views dropped to almost zero, all morning.

In the last 30 minutes, the sites Google page views have equalled the average for a 24 hour period, for November.

normasp

1:54 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



hahahahahaha jagger pi!
I like it..

reseller

3:06 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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feelfree

>>What about spam reports?<<

Thanks a bunch for asking :-)

Don't wait to send Jagger-related spam feedback; I'd send that now. Using the keyword "Jagger3" at [google.com...] will get someone reading and checking it out.

colin_h

3:10 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Reseller,

Just as a guide to those of us who aren't sure, could you let us know what sort of 'spammy' things we should report to Google. I think that we may be creating a lot of work for Googlebot if we just report sites that list above us in the serps & hope that the bots find something ;-)

All the best

Colin

reseller

3:18 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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colin_h

>>Reseller,

Just as a guide to those of us who aren't sure, could you let us know what sort of 'spammy' things we should report to Google. I think that we may be creating a lot of work for Googlebot if we just report sites that list above us in the serps & hope that the bots find something ;-) <<

I guess GoogleGuy & Matt will say ALL spam. However I have the impression that GG & Matt are mostly interested at present in; hidden text, doorway pages sites/networks and SE cloaking.

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