Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[Miop]

<I guess GoogleGuy & Matt will say ALL spam. However I have the impression that GG & Matt are mostly interested at present in; hidden text, doorway pages sites/networks and SE cloaking. >

I've reported one of these sites 6 times now (in the past 2 weeks) - it's still there. :( maybe they are drowning in spam reports...)

[like2golf]

In my sector, this is what I'm seeing. Looks like Jagger is finally Rockin' & Rollin'

Original J3
66.102.9.99
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104

J3 with Flux
216.239.57.105
216.239.53.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.63.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
216.239.57.98
66.102.7.147
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.104
66.102.7.99
64.233.189.104

[colin_h]

Reseller,

Spam seems to be everywhere nowadays. Even established big brands are using target sentences, keyphrase links and popups to artificially [mis]direct their visitors. If Google's Algo was so good, wouldn't it just pick up these cheats and dismiss them automatically?

<<[From 1984] "It seems I was a thought criminal, even though I didn't know it">>

I think that Google is letting us destroy ourselves by offering us this artificial sense of power over our competitors / fellow forum users.

Until there's a concise list of actual spamming methods to look out for I'll leave the police work to those more worthy than me.

Please remember everyone, when your listings drop, it wasn't me who did it to you ...

Many Thanks

[ssjxxx]

I'm seeing what looks to be a blend of J3 and something older on my www.google.com searches. Cached pages updated as recently as November 14. It looks like something is making its way out, but I'm not really sure what it is.

[taps]

As far a I can see that from here it has stopped spreading. Can anyone see these results on regular google.com or any other local google right now?

[Ankhenaton]

Is google now taking completely the pee?

A keyword we rank quite high has now a 100% MFA site as #1

something like this
[widget[1-9]*.[0-9]-[a-z].de...]

And that w^&*^*&er has reserved thousands of these subdomains.

The only code in that page is an animated gif and an adsense block...

Just to make sure that you understand, the guy/gal above has outranked Wikipedia..... with that bs :\...

[Kangol]

Maybe J3 with Flux have lower spam filters. I am sure that Google can ban that kind of spam automatically. Increasing the spam filters will get rid of that kind of spam but for every 10 spammy sites that filter blocks other 5 good ones may go down too.

[helleborine]

I am seeing MAJOR overhauls on 66.102.9.104 for my 2, 3 and 4 keyword combinations. Things are really hopping in my sector, beginning this morning.

Anyone else observing large and sudden changes?

[colin_h]

About a week or so ago I asked this forum whether it was about time that the press got to hear about Google's recent blitz. It was the broad opinion that we wouldn't have enough simple facts to fill a press release.

How about now?

Does anybody think that the press should hear about this constant flux and panic that is sweeping through our world?

I'd like to hear from the forum before I start

[Atomic]

I am seeing a lot of new backlinks today and every one of my indexed pages has a fresh date label. Most of those dates are 2-3 days old at most.

[dfre]

Does anybody think that the press should hear about this constant flux and panic that is sweeping through our world?

If its not big enough for the press to notice, then why would they care?

[colin_h]

Maybe they are watching this forum ;-o

[taps]

this morning in the local newspaper office:

Jeff: "John, what about that: 'Webmasters are complaining about Google-Update'"

John: "What's a Webmaster?"

Jeff: "Gimme a second"
<Jeff opens a browser, enters www.google.com and searches for 'webmaster'...>

Jeff: "Google says, it's a guy named Tabke - he owns a whole Webmaster World. Ain't Google a great tool?"

John: "So what are those people complaining about? They have their own world, they should stay there."

Jeff: "Ok, forget about that, John. How about 'man bytes dog'?"

[edit]typo[/edit]

[edited by: taps at 5:31 pm (utc) on Nov. 16, 2005]

[colin_h]

LOL

[Eazygoin]

IMO Google has the right to have a long update once in a while, to get its house in order,and make the index better.

Whether some people are doing better or worse, is a fact of life, when it comes to reindexing, and we all have to learn the lessons. In certain cases, the site perhaps should be indexed better, but perfection is hard to meet.

Overall, the index is still by far the best going, so why complain to the media? Apart from which, enough press and other media use computers, and can see everything related to the update.

As I see it, the 'world' index is almost finished being updated, give or take a bit of flux, and the regional/country indexes will follow soon. IMO Google is doing a great job.

[webdude]

Hey taps,

priceless

[TammyJo]

I am seeing much better results. Everything I am searching for I seem to be finding quickly within the first 3 listings (personal searches...not just the usual business searches). I haven't had to change search engines once today.
No spam yet....will keep looking though:)

Hopefully this one sticks for a while!

[McMohan]

taps, that was hilarious :)) Thanks.

[pizzaiolo]

"Anyone else observing large and sudden changes? "
Me! I moved to #1 out of 15.000.000 from #89 for my main subject.

[colin_h]

What about a story about a massive multi-national search engine that has spent the past 6 months trying to counter spammers that are making their engine virtually impotent. The problem is that over time every company with a website has started using the tricks of the spammers to help them compete in a vicious marketplace. So, obviously, when the Search Engine starts cleaning house it realises that the results are no better than 6 months ago.

Then there's the 'Google Guy', a mysterious sort who has been sent down from Google HQ (Supposedly) to walk amongst the common people ... a messiah if you like. He has his band of faithful disciples, who give snippets of information to the gradually growing listeners ... desperate to hear news of their salvation. The favoured forum have been given direct access to Google and they can block the common peoples access to heaven by use of the mystical report page ... and some of them are having a field day reporting anything that gets in their way (Hey let's report them and see if Google can find something to penalise them for).

And then there's the crunch ... that it's nothing but a way of boosting interest in a flagging industry. I mean, who uses a search engine to look for services anymore? Only first timers and webmasters & the first timers soon realise that it's all spam and head off to Amazon or Ebay etc.

There's a big story here ... it just takes time to tie up the ends ;-)

[tigger]

>I am seeing much better results. Everything I am searching for I seem to be finding quickly within the first 3 listings

not in the sector I'm looking at the first 5 places are taken by Amazon or Ebay, but do the same search over at MSN and you find actual sites not directories or subs the results are a 1000% better and something that doesn't exist on G accurate

although saying this I am seeing a slight improvement in the serps

[zimba]

I found a Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') spurping up 13mb from my site. MSN have slurped 2mb and Google about 2mb as well. I have no idea who the Unknwn robot could be?

[kevinpate]

gloom, despair and agony on me
deep crawling madness, excessive misery
if it weren't for bad bots, I'd have no bots at all, gloom, despair and agony on meeeeeeeeeee

(for any of ya old nuf to recall the weekly efforts
of Buck/Roy/Archie/Grandpa and the whole Hee-haw
gang)

[phantombookman]

Taps
the only post I felt was worth reading in this evermore ridiculous thread

[helleborine]

Pizzaiolo, thanks you for re-assuring me that I am not hallucinating. I should add that things are different this afternoon than they were this morning. The sites are leaping in the SERPs. Ribbit. It is wild. Just when I expected things to calm down, the winds are picking up.

[deanril]

Seeing huge movement right now. Don't know if it will last though, seems like a filter dropped off all a sudden.....

[followgreg]

It's certainly beginning to move...is that for good now?

[deanril]

I doubt its for good. I really think the current movement is temporary. Put it this way, this is the best I've ever ranked, EVER! That won't last..........

[thecityofgold2005]

The current results on google.co.uk are new and also look better from a anti-spam perspective. Certain sites that I suspected might get removed for spam have been removed.

Those results can continue as far as I'm concerned.

[zikos]

as I mentioned at noon J3 is only at those DC's
64.233.189.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
216.239.53.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.63.104
no moved yet to others