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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued from
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Dayo_UK

7:12 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



Yep - we might aswell go home :)

Until Jagger3 hits - then this is worth watching - and for a while afterwards.

But if Spacey knows what is going to happen - any chance of letting the rest of us know ;)

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 7:12 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]

iszatmary

7:12 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



The same results that you can find on 66.102.11.99 are propagated now on 12 diferent G - IP addresses, this morning they were found just on 5 of them.

I think that's telling us something.

rawley2

7:14 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spaceylacie,

I hope so. I took a small hit but it's a fair drop.

SEOTard

7:17 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If 66.102.11.99 results stick - it is going to be a very long winter :-(

asher02

7:17 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Take a look at that....run a search for "There has never been such an artistic period of menorahs."
search it in Google with the commas.

You will get 2 results.
1. A site that copied this sentence from my website.
2. and a supplemental result of a site that used http-proxy to steal my site.

My site is not listed for that sentence. now press the "repeat the search with the omitted results included" link and my site will pop up. I have been outrank by a supplemental result....boy I must be a very bad at what I am doing. BTW my site is gone on serps...A pure White hat site.

WebPixie

7:18 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The results on that server do look the best I've seen overall for my market. With only one excpetion, my site dropped 8 pages. If it is indeed the end result I guess it's back to the drawing board.

Maybe I'll keep that site for MSN(page 1) and Yahoo(page 2) and make a new site just to target G.

Oh well, the results overall are better and that would seem to G's goal.

SEOTard

7:20 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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WebPixie,

which DC?

Kangol

7:22 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I like this one: [216.239.37.104...]

Perfection

7:22 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK and Taps -

There is no internal duplicate content on my site.

Also, I'm not using php, this site is just simple html.

But as far as external dupe content goes, I can copy and paste random sentences from pretty much every page of the site and put them in google and find 30 other sites that stole that entire article. But this is a long standing problem that hasn't effected me before. I don't know if it is now, but if so, what could I do about it? Report 100+ sites to Google?

Problem is a site that is never updated or changed for several years is unlikely to be deserving of a top spot in the index.

So the fact that such pages held high-rankings for so-long indicate things were broken before. Removal of such sites is actually an indicator of improvement.

Unless your site is based on ancient history.

aeiouy, do you realize what little sense that statement makes? You are basically saying that good information becomes less useful over time.

Dayo_UK

7:22 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



I like this one [yahoo.com...] :)

spaceylacie

7:23 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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66.102.11.99 is showing new results, but I think they are too extreme to stick.

216.239.37.104 results are also spreading... for one, to my own default DC, but minus the previously "sandboxed" sites. 66.102.11.99 is showing previously "sandboxed" sites in the very top positions.... I see the spread of that DC as a way to find out whether these new sites introduced to the index deserve a top spot, if they do, they will be added into the final results. If they don't make the final cut, well... out they go again.

JuniorOptimizer

7:23 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That one is okay too Kangol.

WebPixie

7:23 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Spacielacie's predicted end result:

216.239.37.104

SEOTard

7:24 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spaceylacie,

obviously an awful lot of speculation.

I sure hope you are right though.

driwashsolutions

7:30 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Spacielacie's predicted end result:
216.239.37.104

looks like J1 to me.

SEOTard

7:31 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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driwashsolutions,

agree 100%

Dayo_UK

7:32 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



But Spacey knows! - And is not going to bother watching anymore!

Anyway - come on Jagger3, lets be avin ya.

brokenbricks

7:36 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo: What do you expect Jagger 3 to bring? Canonical changes are gonna mean what exactly?

Whats going to happen to Supplemental pages? Whats gonna happen to pages that have non www->www 301 redirects? Is it gonna be so earth shattering?

I have a feeling the impact of that alone won't be so heavy.

Dayo_UK

7:39 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



brokenbricks

No it might be subtle to start with. Especially as G has not crawled my site properly due to the problem - therefore I cant just come back - just like that - but as GG said a day or so ago - this is going to be the new base going forward.

See my post though a page or so back.

spaceylacie

7:40 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Whoops, I think the new results have moved to
216.239.59.104 - results at 216.239.37.104 have changed in the last few minutes.

JudgeJeffries

7:40 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK has become Delia Smith

Rick42

7:41 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would have to say that theres NO WAY the SERPs on 216.239.37.104 can be the final results. I honestly doubt that J3 has even begun. I've noticed that many DCs show the same results as 66.102.11.99 ...and the list seems to be growing.

On 66.102.11.99, one of the site's I have been waiting 10 months to come out of sandbox has finally poped out...but on 216.239.37.104 there seems to be no changes then what I've been seeing in the last few weeks....

Throughout this entire update...I have yet to do a Google.com search thats directs me to results that appear on the DCs listed within this thread......

And why is there an "ENGLISH" subtitle below the Google DC pages?

Pico_Train

7:41 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is taking too long, whatever happened to the age of instant gratification!

Google needs some more processing power!

SEOTard

7:43 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I can't wait to stop searching for "blue widgets" 200 times per day on Google.

The network admins at my work must wonder what the hell is going on :)

Rick42

7:46 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>This is taking too long, whatever happened to the age of instant gratification!

Google needs some more processing power! <<<

haha....ya ...HEY G__GLE!....your welcome to borrow some of our servers!....only condition is that you must let me be an onlooker ... ;-P

joeduck

8:00 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo thanks for thoughtful earlier reply which I'm still digesting as I await the new jagger 3 results.

spaceylacie

8:00 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"but on 216.239.37.104 there seems to be no changes then what I've been seeing in the last few weeks"

Yes, that DC is back to showing the old results, not the new ones. I'm not going to spend all day chasing down around the new serps, anyone that looked when I first posted got a glimpse. Closest to the final I can find with a quick search is 216.239.59.104, which includes previously "sandboxed" sites.

Dayo_UK

8:05 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



joeduck

Did you see my post in Supporters a month or so ago:-

[webmasterworld.com...]

SEOTard

8:05 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spaceylacie,

I doubt J3 has even started.

Deester

8:06 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think we're seeing J3 at all yet...
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