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Seeing three very distinctive sets of results now.
22.214.171.124 - These look like pre / mid Jagger2 to me. I certainly don't think these are fresh.
126.96.36.199 - Looks like Jagger2 end result and very respectable too.
188.8.131.52 - These are the most recent and I think these are going to spread...
It's almost like we have three stages of SERPs in chronological order here.
20 DC TOTAL. Retreating.
Jagger2 Serps : First appeared last wednesday
16 DC TOTAL. Propogating.
Jagger 2.5 Serps : First appeared this Monday.
4 DC TOTAL. Static.
joined:Dec 29, 2003
Most importantly, it is open to abuse.
Think it goes to show that this isn't over yet.
Btw, has anyone heard anything concrete about whether and when Jagger3 happens? Unlike Jagger 1 and 2, Google has gone slightly off schedule with this update. I expected it to be live this morning (UK).
Links having no effect would fit what I am seeing, although there are some very very obscure phrases that should rate no even with no back links but they still don't so I think it may be a site penalty rather than just a links discount.
Btw, has anyone heard anything concrete about whether and when Jagger3 happens?
From Matt Cutt's blog
November 2, 2005 @ 2:39 am
P.S. Iím off to bed, but Jagger3 is coming along. I donít know if it will be visible later today or not, but Iíll keep you posted when I know more.
October 26, 2005 @ 2:00 am
Jagger1, Jagger2, and Jagger3 are mostly independent changes, but theyíre occurring closely enough in time (plus they interact to some degree) that itís clearer just to act as if they were one update for feedback purposes.
[edited by: synergy at 4:36 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]
My company did a lot of web programming for a *VERY* huge scripts portal which i am sure is known to at least 50% of WebmasterWorld audience. Getting a "web development by" link from it was a great accomplishment for my company. Now as this portal belongs to a major web advertising agency and goolge DOES know that as they used to be buying traffic from them, I am seemingly suspected of buying this link and penalized!
I see no other reason for such obnoxios google behavior...
Suspend it for anchor value etc - fair enough - but why the bl**dy penalty?
Well google you are definitely going insane...
I am getting about 2-3 RFP a day from that link only - something I could never expect from that keyword so basically, google - keep going insane :)
Jagger is looking good to me ;)
Formerly, one of my active pages had been labeled supplemental. It had two "//" between the domain name and the page.html (www.example.com//page.htm)
It really did not surprise me. That particular page was a direct copy off one of my other websites, albeit altered very, very little.
However, now it's showing a duplicate listing of the same page that is not a supplemental.
I hope that is a good sign, cuz I got the lazies and I don't feel like doing a rewrite!
Now, don't get on me for dups ... I know, I know. This is the only dup I have, so I hope it passes muster.
I think once again that they only want the reports to be sent in to help THEM with the Algo. and not to remove the spam.
Anyone else finding this issue the same way we are?
What is the canonical fix exactly? What is it that you are seeing to determine that canonical URLs are fixed?
Say we have http://www.example.com/Music/12345.html for one of our pages, but Google sees another URL (that works also) for the same page http://www.example.com/MP3/12345.html - what is it that I am supposed to be worried about?
Why are the search engines worried about this to target it in their update?
I understand that we need to fix them, but dont quite understand how this update is targeting canonical URLs.
I have reported a few small spammers in US and they've been romoved.
I have been reported a MAJOR spammer (an SEO company, talking 100's of cloaking pages on 100's different domains) in France and they keep on shining with a PR7 and more client everyday. They NEVER get penalized and keep doing business everywhere, they even have an office in US now(lawsuits upcoming soon :) )
Dunno what to say, probably Google has a double standard - They remove what can't hurt them. For the one mentioned above it is so well known and obvious that I can't find another answer.
For the rest they might just get busy with spam reports like: "my competitor is #1 and I'm sure they are cheating because I am better than them" ...