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Only thing I'm really bummed about is that a new page I added a long time ago- before deep crawl - was not added to the index.
It's linked to my site map which is linked to every other page and ALL my pages from my site are indexed...with the page I'm talking about being the exception. :(
It's a page I *may* be able to get to an Ok ranking too for one of my Overture terms.
Googleguy, the duplicates you're talking about, could that have something to do with your remark that spam would be filtered out by automated processes instead human intervention a couple of weeks ago?
We've seen lots of changes the past few days where competitors who use shadow domains etc. are out of the serp's (finally!).
I tend to stick around search engine forums a lot and you can tell by the fact I have more posts there than some of the moderators but hey whos counting.
Ive been here about 1 whole month now but never really posted as I have really checked back here. Maybe I will a bit more though :)
I think with experience people realise that ebb and flow is natural and unavoidable, and come to terms with it. But it takes time.
Still... it always makes this an entertaining thread. I love the enthusiasm.
And hey, if everyone's reloading these pages all the time, make sure and make it count. Hold down your CTRL when you refresh to make sure the graphics reload too. I'm sure Brett will appreciate the extra effort and bandwidth expenditure.
I uploaded major changes to about 20 new sites last Friday.
On Sunday freshbot picked them up, new titles, completely new design, new keyword rich text - these new caches showed up on some serps, but not all - perfectly normal.
Now on www-ex I am seeing the old cached pages on the new serps - does that mean I will have to bear the effects of the old cache until the next update?
Good luck to all in the update ;)
My site for example was a completly new domain name. After 1 week of the site being live I had a PR of 0 and it stayed that way for 2 months. Now I have a PR of 4 however my backlinks have not showed up yet.
You really need to give you're site about 3-4 months or even longer before you will know to what extent exactly and how well the site is going to do.
I would say that 6 months is not too long to wait although it can seem like a lifetime.
Thank-you for your answer ncsuk...does it usually happen that way? Man, it'll be tough for me to get more backlinks then if the other web sites see that my main page is PR0! Oh well, I will continue to plug on and try even harder!
I recall people talking about SERP's jumping around until it hit the final index, but I didn't see that for any of my SERP's last index.
I got a client who was paying Overture $6/click for a phrase to #3 on the ex server. :) I expected that term to do well.
but...the more general term that his industry is known as (two words) only went from 32 to 14- and that happened with Freshbot/Everflux. I was fully expecting this phrase to get to Top 10 if not higher and can't figure out why it's not. :(
Not because of me so much as there is little competition...that I thought it would do well.
Also, I find it _VERY_ odd that the page I optimized the $6/click Overture term for is NOT the page that Google put at #3 for that phrase. They used his index page which is a Flash intro (no comments please) and an entrance with two buttons for the two groups of people he needs to appeal to. Plus, the redundant links w/sitemap link to all pages of course.
There is NO text at all on the index page except the footer w/tagline. And the Page Title (this seems a big deal in his SERPs) is less optimized for the phrase that comes up ranking #3.
So, is it possible the rankings could change significantly from the ex server to the regular index? I know for fact none of his competitors have changed their websites at all.
Dont be suprised if the new pages fluctuate in and oout of the listing for about 1 month as google will alternate through them to try and get a feel for what has changed and the rank it should give the new pages.
I have cached pages on my domain from 3 months ago still showing every now and again in the cache but the new pages are the ones that are actually listed.