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Update Cassandra! Google Montly Update

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3:23 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Check it out, I'm seeing 661,000 links for yahoo.
4:17 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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GoldenRanker, check the links on www-ex.google.com
4:18 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mack,

[www-ex.google.com...]

It is the very beginning. Now those fun few days....

[edited by: Chicago at 4:20 am (utc) on April 11, 2003]

4:20 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Results 1 - 10 of about 661,000. Search took 0.22 seconds.

taken from www-ex

Do we have the real deal. I would say yes anyone care to confirm?

4:21 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hope my serps look better in the morning. Good night and good luck all.
4:21 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think that the dance begins with an "addaggio" interpreted by datacenters, soon continues with an "allegro" played by yahoo backlinks.
4:22 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes this does seem different. Checking the backlinks there are a number missing unless they upped the cutoff point to show up with the link: command. Also, the number of backlinks listed with the omitted results included has always been exactly half the amount of results said to be returned. Now it is less than half, although it's not giving me the 'include omitted results' option.
4:23 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wasn't it just last month we saw and early fluxuation from the same center?

>tool accuracy

It checks www, www2, and www3 - which are all 3 setting at last months numbers here. Maybe the update process is going to change.

4:25 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



well i guess this thing
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is as usefull as a bag of hammers ROFL
4:25 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nope, this is different...my brand new site is now indexed on ex-google. Thing I don't understand (and maybe because I'm a newbie) is why do I show no backlinks..and why do I not have any PR yet? As well, I went searching through my keyphrases and I can't find my listing in the top 200!? :(

Dave.

4:26 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Oh, Brett... can't we play ;)

Contents of -ex clearly consider recent changes. Confirmed for me accross dozens of sites. It is early, but clearly portends the days to come.

4:27 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I got to searching, but only on a few of my key phrases...I'm #1 and 2 for one of mine....:-).....DANCE BABY DANCE!
4:29 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dropped one in the PR on one site.

*sigh* This is after being listed recently on Dmoz / Yahoo and having 900 more pages being indexed.

Definately causing some issues with placement on www-ex for some of the targetted keywords.

Not that big an issue .. the site is only 3 or 4 months old. Plenty of time to change. :)

[edited:- Ugh! Dropped a PR point on 3 sites. From 5 across the board to 4 across the board. Definately going to have to get some advice from the gurus now.]

[edited by: shrirch at 4:33 am (utc) on April 11, 2003]

4:30 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>It checks www, www2, and www3 - which are all 3 setting at last months numbers here. Maybe the update process is going to change

It better have, or yours truly is gonna have egg all over his face for declaring a Google update to be on. ;)

4:30 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Did GG do an end-around? :)
4:31 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There is a reduction in PR across industries ....hmmm , interesting ...
4:32 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else liking the -sj better than the -ex so far?
(I know I am)
4:32 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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noooooo... been dropped. and i didn't do any nasty tricks or anything!
4:33 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It would be cool if GoogleGuy gave a shout and let us know if google-ex is the real deal for this update. If so, I'm bummin!

Lost a lot of backlinks according to google-ex, even though we truly doubled our backlinks. We also dropped 20+ positions for several keywords which we've optimized for even more than before with anchor text, H1's, etc.

Google-ex, say it ain't so!

4:35 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd just like to confirm both the appearance of the update, and that I'm noticing a lot of PR-lowering in my industry. I'd say 70% of my competitors dropped 1 full rank. I have noticed that most of them don't seem too keen on acquiring incoming links, must not be WW readers. (Meanwhile, we've gone up 1 PR each of the last 2 updates - hehe :] )
4:37 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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the links on www-ex are showing one of my sites dropping from 382 to 296 which cannot possibly be right. Thats what it was at last month
4:38 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It looks like it on www-ex - not only the Yahoo backlinks, but I'm seeing backlinks changed on all my sites and there's only one site that hasn't changed position.

Looks to me like they trounced multiple links from the same site from a quick look. I suspect they've dealt a hit to back-links.

4:38 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rfgdxm1 I agree with you on the update.

I think there is a very big change going on though. Perhaps the update is going to involve a lot more than www www2 and www3 I think this one is going to be very gradual across lots of the data centers.

4:41 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I still can't figure out how to see my new PR for my currently PR3 site but can I assume that if the -ex server IS showing backlinks now, that I will at least achieve a PR4 this time?
4:41 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I should be nearby over the next few days. While people are around, let me mention a few things. Several people should see the results of reinclusion requests with the new index. Before a new crawl starts is also the best time to send a reinclusion request (email to webmaster@google.com with the subject line "reinclusion request" and explain how you've cleaned up the site). I don't know when a new crawl will start, but better to be early than late with a reinclusion request.

Last thing I wanted to mention: I'd appreciate any spam reports of pages with hidden text or hidden links over the next couple weeks. If you've already submitted a report on a page, you don't need to re-submit it though. Thanks everyone..

4:41 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The ip address of the ex datacenter is 216.239.33.100, which is the same ip that www2 used previously. I wonder if we could make the assumption that checking backlinks at [216.239.33.100...] would be a better place to look that www-ex or www2
4:42 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Marcia: Definately something fishy.

1) I can see they've picked up my new site from its Dmoz listing.
2) The backlinks have been seriously reduced. Does not show Yahoo or Dmoz.org linking back to me. Is that normal?

I'm hoping that this is a case of us panicing before the update has settled on www-ex

4:45 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can confirm that pr is now fluctuating on some of our sites which normally indicates the beginning of the update.
4:45 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok. Just thought about it. Yahoo / Dmoz pages are < PR3 so they're not being used in the links:thingy.

Bit unfair for those of us in regional / international categories.. *shrug* :(

4:45 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think we can class Googleguys post as confirmation.

Good luck everyone.

4:46 am on Apr 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



PR dropped a point for me as well, glad i'm not th only one :)
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