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Toolbar greyed for all sites?

Google's toolbar not showing PR anymore?

         

cigjonser

11:34 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone else see the toolbar greyed out for all sites? I'm not getting anything.

ShunT

8:08 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Incorrect bears5122, they never had it on the toolbar preview, and it's still on the "features" page.

Please don't add to this mess and give people the wrong information...

bears5122

8:16 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wrong information? The international pages still have the old screenshots on it, take a look.

[toolbar.google.com...]

I would put some merit into the fact that the old pages promote pagerank and the new ones don't.

ShunT

8:28 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Cache from May 23rd has no PR bar in preview....

Features list has Pagerank bar: [google.com...]

Tour has Pagerank bar:
[toolbar.google.com...]

I think you've taken this a bit too far, sorry.

webnoob

8:30 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you people are like vultures over this PR thing.. get a grip already sheesh. if you rely so much on a PR then your site probably sucks without a PR. a good maintained site doesn't need a PR to indicate its value.

steveb

8:42 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"...but the impact of manipulating google's real PR would be lessened"

I don't see how you can say that. The impact of any manipulation in the past or the future is a very imprecise thing.

What we do know is that whatever ranking reasons people bought links, those still exist. Obviously there should be no reason at all for link buying to lessen... or actually, the only "lessening" impact is some people will throw up their arms and say "this is too hard for me to figure out, I give up, I'm not going to try to rank". That group will be small though. Way more than counterbalancing that are all the mega-link sites with either PR0ed white bars or that weren't passing pagerank at all, who will now promote themselves as authorities and get in the game.

The bottom line is high quality links matter. If one way to judge value of links disappears, it just means more imprecise guessing will occur, volume of demand will go up, prices will go up, etc. It's inevitable.

If there are ten envelopes holding money in a hat, and you can pay $10 for any enevelope, and if they are all labeled with the amounts inside, you would buy one labeled with more than $10. If however none of them are labeled, to get the value in the envelopes, you have to guess which are the best ones to buy based on whatever other criteria you can come up with. Not a great example, but the bottom line is a few high PR sites will be hurt, while tons of PR0 and middling PR sites can now get in the game.

If the PR display does go away, it is the birth of a large industry and the death of a small one.

keywordguru

8:49 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting!
As we all knew, it was only a matter of time something went down with the PR.

In all honesty, the PR ranking had lost it merrit years back.

I just feel bad for the big timer PR sellers. Too much money was made with PR manipulation and such anyhow.

I watched big time link brokers spoof sites all day long, then 6 months later sell PR8 links for tons of dollars. It was fun while it lasted ;)

Then again, the PR has gone dead in the past so it may sprout back up.

Google Owns You!:)jk
KG

MikeNoLastName

9:10 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>.. now what measure am i going to use when exchanging links!

NOW what measure are we going to use to ensure we are not "linking into bad neighborhoods!" We try to follow all the rules to be a good little website, but G just KEEPS on changing them.

HostingDirectory

9:21 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe so many websites got innocently penalised due to scrapper sites and the new trustrank that messed up Googles entire index... Googles bright engineers thought, lets not update the Pagerank... lets remove it alltogether.

That way Google won't have to answer thousands of emails from websites asking why their Pagerank no longer shows and why good sites have their search positions gone... and the shareholders won't realise that Google has lost its ability to rank sites like they used to.

Are they covering up for their own mess... hiding the mess under the carpet i wonder?

ShunT

9:32 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google's bright engineers thought, the webs changing so much why not just adopt the technology [delayedsearch.com...] uses...

bobothecat

9:37 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Googles bright engineers

I wonder if they're going to the conference :)

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