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Granted, but that would have to be an awful lot of new data to move a site from #6 to #74 as it stand this morning.
Something is not working right GG. We are once again seeing inconsistancy in the Brandy Update and based on past experience, it says, Google hasn't got the overall problem fixed properly. As the inconsistancy becomes more apparent it is going to lead right back to the negative reactions that webmasters have had for months. Also when you have several websites in the top 15 getting a second non-indent listing in the top 30, eventually the average searcher is going to continue to see these as poor results.
Given that webmasters and joe surfer alike are dissatisfied with Google as of late, something that has been evident in the last month, its time that Google either steps up or it will find itself contiued to be cast out. Of course you know Google is aware that it's momentum is dropping and fast.
That may have been around the time of Dominic.
Since that time it has been going exactly that way on the site which makes most of the money.
Suddenly in the last 36 hours
Google percentage is down from 45% to 12%
Yahoo percentage is up from 30% to above 50%
Traffic is down 30%
Conversions are down 90%
Is Brandy still just an interim step towards the previously stated goal (better targeted traffic for better conversion rates) or has that goal been eliminated?
missed altogether, in other words, a total failure!
we should expect that traffic would go down and conversions would go up over time as the algo got better.
That is a pretty standard goal of search engines. They want to send users to the best sites for them as they can. That goal has not been changed, and certainly not eliminated.
I would suggest that (especially with semantics) they are pushing towards trying to find the truly relevant gems, out of the hundreds of thousands of sites that Google sees as at least partially relevant, not just the SEOd ones.
Not an easy task, but one that would result in lower traffic (for SEOd sites) but a higher conversion overall.
A long time ago (in web years) GoogleGuy said something along the lines that we should expect that traffic would go down and conversions would go up over time as the algo got better.
missed altogether, in other words, a total failure!
Agree with you totally here. And these are certainly not the results we've been 'promised' last week. The 64.* servers provided clean results then, now they're full of offtopic (sub)sites and spam. (At least for results in Dutch that is).
Can we now basically say that update Brandy is over?
1. What kind of SPAM are google currently working on?
2. Are penalties to SPAM permanant?
64.233.161.99 - 20,100 pages
www (216.239.37.99) - 13,400 pages
www (216.239.39.99) - 15,400 pages
www (216.239.57.99) - 19,800 pages
Wouldn't this show that each IP is accessing different data or am I missing something?
I've been keeping track of Google's monthly updates since November 2003.
It's been a nuisance to see a site that uses doorways keep its number one position for 2 months while my sites went MIA.
Finally, this week one of my sites made the Top 20. The doorways site remains in number one.
Since Yahoo replaced Google this week, the same doorways site is number one in the new Yahoo index. My Google Top 20 site is also a Top 20 in Yahoo's new index.
It will be great to see Google beat Yahoo in terms of anti-spam techniques.
So, go ahead and approve the spam changes!
Is Brandy still just an interim step towards the previously stated goal (better targeted traffic for better conversion rates) or has that goal been eliminated?
The quality of the google index is not measured by much $ is added to your bottom line every day.
If someone is only looking for info about widget and finds you through the google SERPS, then your conversion rate would go down, but the relevance of the serps are up. Googles definition of targetted traffic may not meet your definition.
For the search "my city web design"
13 of the top 20 are directories
3 don't have the words "web design" anywhere on the page
1 doesn't have the city name on the page, only in meta keywords
3 are relevant
Top 5 are directories
This is the worst update from where I'm sitting.
Horrible!
I guess it is time to start my own directory.
wouldn't hurt to have a new domain for a reciprocal directory structure and put whatever content I want, to rank well ..
64 looked fabulous. but if this is the end results it looks more like 216 did a week ago..which resembles florida in my search topics.
Not spammy...but not very targeted serps either...bah
Any news on the report I sent you to do with the really spammed up (and very blatant I may add!) results I found?
Cheers mate,
Jon
Brandy is not giving the user what they're looking for - I want my favorite sports team in every search, doesn't G know?
</sarcasm>
I am still seeing at least two and possibly three sets of different results rotating in and out of the live Google. I know they are different sets because I have been tracking them very closely and have all three sets (of the searches I do) carefully documented.
Is it the plan to have different data sets cycle through randomly or will it actually settle down with just one set of results?
>>Top 3 for over 70 competitive single KW's btw.
#1 for 700 for 2 word phrases.
Thats funny Medcenter.I can only find one serp you are in and thats at no#5.
Cheers
what are you looking for? must not be what we are optimizing for...
tell you what, go find out which drug sold the most in the US last year [prescription], and then google "buy [keyword]"
64.233.161.104
for me that one has been steady...
maybe its just my sector though. i do remember seeing some changes yesterday [but they were good changes?]
cheers :)
Very interesting. Here in So. Cal. my pings are different...
google.com - 216.239.39.99
www.google.com - 66.102.7.99
.com is: 216.239.39.99
and. co.uk and .es is: 216.239.39.104
