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I'm seeing live Brandy results now

Is this across the board?

         

Liane

4:04 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am finally seeing the Brandy index in the regular SERPS. Is this the real deal or is it still cycling?

UK_Web_Guy

7:38 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to re-post this, but GG could you explain what you meant by "There may be a restart needed later tonight though. " in your earlier post.

A restart of Brandy?

Also, from your comments are we correct to assume that Brandy doesn't necessarily contain the most up to date data, especially in terms of backlinks recognition?

ClickMagazine

7:47 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"restart"

Maybe there's a deeper meaning in that word, but I took it to mean a reboot.

mrwhy2k

8:00 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm located in So. Cal and I have seen 64 results for the last week on the main server. But just moments ago they switched to something else on the main server... results I have never seen before. Drastically different than 64

Roomy

8:07 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Some IP's to help you!

Santa Clara California x=7
66.102.x.98
66.102.x.99
66.102.x.102
66.102.x.104
66.102.x.105

Dublin x=9
66.102.x.99
66.102.x.104

Dublin xx=59
216.239.xx.98
216.239.xx.99
216.239.xx.102
216.239.xx.103
216.239.xx.104
216.239.xx.105

www for Germany and UK Pings mostly to 66.102.xx.104

www2 pings from me as 216.239.xx.104 as does www3 xx=57 Which is Palo Alto

PhoneGuy

8:26 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My Network Admin has been checking into this for me. Apparently G uses Akamai to handle it's traffic and distribute evenly throughout the G network. That is why we see different IP's from time to time. The only way to really check for consistent results is to access a specific IP. www can change as much as every minute.

cabos

8:30 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google has made a major change today.

Anyone else notice totally different results coming up?

mrwhy2k

8:34 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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66.102.7.98
These 66 results look awful... I have to admit, I'm freakin out a little bit here.
I'll I see in So Cal right now is 66 results.

uptil7000

8:52 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I saw those results also(In the mid-west). Our #1 keyword results have us and top 5 competiors nowhere in litings. I am freaking out a little too.

troyid

9:10 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing some ugly results but luckily for me my site has jumped to #1 for a major generic term

Have not seen results like this before.

europeforvisitors

9:11 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



I'm seeing new results in the Midwest, but the differences between these and what we were seeing yesterday don't appear to be meaningful for the keyphrases that I track. Results are better than they were pre-Florida but a tiny bit worse than yesterday's.

filo

9:11 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A search for my url no longer returns a link to my website. (i.e www.myurl.com -> search google for myurl -> my website does not show up)

I've also lost a lot of SERPS on most of my prime keywords.

Liane

9:18 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't freak out, the results are obviously still percolating ... at least I hope that's what's happening! GG did say they might have to do a restart some time tonight ... whatever that means?

I just want to know if Google intends to continue rotating data centers and therefore serving up entirely different SERPS.

I sure hope not because surfers who find something at 1:00 in the afternoon in the first position are highly likely to come back at 2:00 or 3:00 or even the next day, type in the same search term in order to take another look before they buy.

People are very lazy about bookmarking pages when they find something they like. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen peculiar or easily identified search strings in my logs which can all be attributed to the same person coming back several times before they contact us or buy.

If Google intends to serve up different results on a random basis, surfers will get frustrated and walk. My fear is that these rotating results may be intentional and a permanent fixture.

If that's the case, Yahoo will reap the rewards of getting to know Google intimately over the past couple of years. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I have this horrible, gut feeling. :(

Hollywood

9:32 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see major changes here in Southern California, what is interesting is some sites I lost 100% with my targeted keywords a month ago are now top results page #1 and all my steady terms ranking well for a few months or more are ALL gone from top 1-3 pages to 10+ or worse.

I think we need to remain patient, also I think 2004 will begin to rattle the weak at heart. With Yahoo onto the new red hot sector of the billion dollar industry of "The Search" we need to understand that Yahoo, Google and the rest are now at war!

Let the games begin!

"If you are going through hell, keep going"
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

mrwhy2k

9:39 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Contacted a few clients through the country, 66 has rolled out to Hawaii, Midwest and East Coast. This could be an entirely different update.

caveman

9:47 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm, just checked into this thread for the first time in a while.

Whatever they're doin' in the 66 range looks pretty dreadful. Weird combo of some much spammier sites up high again... plus more of the old Florida/Austin results.

Sort of the worst of both worlds. Just when it seemed that they were working things out over there. Perhaps this is really just a pot that bubbled over.

Who would hav thought that it possible to add more spam *and* more Florida back in at the same time? Not me, but geez, there it is.

zafile

9:50 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



Yes, I like 66.102.7.98

A doorways site has been pushed out from the number 1 spot it held since a long, long time ago.

I noticed something else.

Another site that had a great ranking only because its owner had a web site factory and therefore had access to lot of links, it's gone from the Top 10!

Yes, Google make my day!

[edited by: zafile at 10:01 pm (utc) on Feb. 20, 2004]

webdude

9:51 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed in the central US that the results are coming from 216.239.x.x. Don't mind, I am still ranked relativley well there. Just looked at 66.102.7.98. I hope that is just an experiment and not going anywhere. It looks bad to me. I dropped from the first 500.

steveb

10:22 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"66.102.7.98"

What in God's name is that? Is this supposed to be a spam datacenter? Obviously these aren't relevant to anything.

It's just weird how people can dig up these datacneters and find some psycho-lunacy sandbox that the public should never see.

cashmere

10:26 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wow 66 boots a #1 site in my serp that has been rock solid through everything. (not my site)(I am not seeing 66 on www). In 66 my index page gone again a la Florida. I liked 64 OK. Hope 66 dies a painful death, and soon.

mrwhy2k

10:26 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I hope you're right Steve, those results look like spam to me.

zafile

10:28 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



GG wrote a few hours ago "There's still some spam changes waiting to be approved, and I know there's at least one in Dutch pending."

Auteuil

10:33 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would suggest that you don't worry too much about the 66.102.7.98 results. It appears to be old pre-Brandy results which will presumably be updated.

I came to that conclusion by looking at some serps on 66.102.7.98. I looked there for one of my site's keywords and the cache of one my site's pages in the serps is dated 23 January. I update my content every couple of days, and the date of that update appears on every page.

Here in Australia the www results for my subject area are not like that at all; they are up to date Brandy style results.

caveman

10:37 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"66.102.7.98"

What in God's name is that? Is this supposed to be a spam datacenter? Obviously these aren't relevant to anything.

It's just weird how people can dig up these datacneters and find some psycho-lunacy sandbox that the public should never see.


LOL steveb. LOL.

Meanwhile, not *so* funny, as some folks seem to be seeing this live. Scary. What are they doing over there?!

Actually, I have a theory. I have come to the conclusion that either Y! or M$N succeeded in getting a high level engineer employed at the 'Plex - could even be one of those sleepers like the Ruskies used to place in the US for years, disguised as normal people!

Then one day, *bang* everything starts going wrong and no one knows what happened until months or years later, when it's too late.

steveb

10:41 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh my God now what...

66.102.7.99 is now showing very good results! LOL. This is too insane.

100% different than what I saw a few minutes ago.

====

I was looking at the wrong datacenter, but also 66.102.7.98 is showing good results now too.

Perhaps the 66 datacenters are doing the meltdown right now that some of saw on www www2 and www3 a couple days ago.

Watch and be amazed...

[edited by: steveb at 10:44 pm (utc) on Feb. 20, 2004]

zafile

10:42 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



I checked again the results at 66.102.7.98

Those results seem to me like Brandy with some subtle filters for doorways, hidden links and full-hidden text.

caveman

10:43 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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old pre-Brandy results

Don't think so. Not exactly anyway. Never saw this before, ever. The date doesn't mean much either, I believe...

Anyone remember what happned with Florida?

Things were cooking for a while, then all the sudden at just one dc these bizarre results start appearing, unlike anything anyone ever saw. Few even took notice. Next day, hellllllllloooooooo Florida.

You just never know, not any more.

steveb

10:47 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, total meltdown. Check it out.

Top ten results changing every fifteen seconds to 100% different results.

mrwhy2k

10:49 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They are changing quite a bit, but every result I see on 66 looks like the devils IP, 666

No good can come from this.

zeus

10:49 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Whats going on here first Yahoo destroy there search engine, now when I seach for not so popular searches on Google I get almost just spam nothing else and I mean ONLY spam sites subdomaines everywhere with cloaking, same color text hiden links everything.

I cant find anything, now I will try temoa and then Altavista.

Googleguy I have never asked/talked with you but if your at Google PLEASE do something.

zeus

JoeyBall

10:50 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Those results look aweful to me,

I preferred it when google did monthly updates back in the past, it seems to me that the datacenters are never stable anymore.

eradict updates time after time that just annoy me really.

I have to stop relying on google and move to other search engines.

The only good news is that yahoo have decide to dump google, some hope with them.

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