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if people are bored with with the latest data centre
observations then they can always go off to another topic - there is plenty to choose from.
I found it very interesting to know what serps other
people around the World were seeing.
IMO this update is a big improvement on Austin and Florida - from a merchant and daily user point of view.
Not to sure about the new layout - don't think it is
so clear and don't like the sponsored links down the right hand side not in the highlighted boxes.
Regards,
Stuart
For the first time since the Florida update, I feel I can safely go to bed without dreaming about how to "fix" my site.
I just hope there will be some stability with G's algorithm for a while. The past three months were a nightmare I don't think any of us wish to re-live. The results were up and down like a toilet seat!
Our challenge now is discovering how to please both Google and Yahoo! at the same time while protecting ourselves from another black Christmas and nuclear winter.
? for GG:
Will we see 216.x AND 64.x share the same data when the dance music stops?
Good job Google man!
GG, it seems you received my email about the spammer or is he gone by accident?
greg
64.233.161.99 changes between two result sets most of the time I refresh it, but neither is on www.
Similar is my situation.
It appears that Brandy is a step backwards for Google, a tad closer to pre-Florida/Austin results, and that is a great thing IMHO.
Bite the bullet G! and ditch the nonsense that you have tried over the last 4+ months. I see Brin went to the press and said Google had made significant changes in the last 2 weeks, not significant enough IMHO.....Go back to pre-Dominic and you might just survive the onslaught from Yahoo and M$.
However, I'm still waiting to see filters for doorways, hidden links and link farms in action.
I still see some spam in the Top Ten.
[edited by: zafile at 10:21 pm (utc) on Feb. 19, 2004]
Here is my real question -- how many that are seeing their ranking return with Brandy changed their sites in response to Austin and Florida? I, for one, all but eliminated my keyword density and changed the way I named internal links. I have, as a result, dropped significantly with other search engines but just returned (I was on pg. 26 from pg. 1) on Google. Just curious what others have done.
What I believe is good is that, again for almost the first time since Dec 2002, most of the high positions are once again occupied by the main players in the industry - companies which specialize in the product, rather than vast numbers of sites of only peripheral relevance. Even though these are, of course, my competitors, this is surely what the surfers want - a choice of specialist companies at the top from which they can choose.
There is no way Google can prevent same-color as background text entirely.
Thanks to CSS, unless Google starts pulling .css and .js files for archival/ranking, it is impossible for it to detect CSS font changes.
Has anybody else noticed this?
Results are changing on www, but they are not what is showing on 64, at least not for my sector. I read GoogleGuy's post again and he did say the 64 results are mostly out with a few datacenters to go. We must be served by those centers, I hope.
We are also seeing old data. My index is the only new page showing of 17,000 pages indexed. Has GoogleGuy said how soon after the Brandy roll out, they would refresh the data?
My theory, anyway.
Question and Suggestion:
Can you give us any indication as to whether or not Google will be manually dealing with spammers, using spam reports for fine tuning algos, or a combination of both?
If people in this forum and further afield had a better understanding of this issue, then spam reporters may be more inclined to report new instances of spam, rather than saying to themselves, or others, things like "I can't see where they did anthing about my last spam report, so why should I bother reporting spam to them again?"
I hate it when people say they see something from southern California that I ain't seeing.
Hey GG, are you penalizing the Valley or something?
Not one whiff of 64, yet at all...... even though there are now at least three distinct result sets on 64.233.161.99. I guess I'm not technogeeky enough to understand how refreshing can continually bring up different results on the same datacenter.
:-)
Now I lost all positions ..
How's that for paranoia lol
This whole experience with Austin and now Brandy has taught me the folly of depending on search position for income. Makes you appreciate the simplicity of auctions.
Somebody tell me this is only temporary please. It just feels crummy to get started right after Florida, see my sites rise in the serps, get through Austin halfway decent, only to be knocked out on the tail end of Brandy.
I'm hoping that these serps are still jumping, and regardless, how often do sites make a quick comeback?
Can anyone shed a little light on the subject for a rookie?
GoogleGuy,
In one of your earliest posts about Brandy you said that you would be looking for emails about spam in the new results, that they should have the keyword "brandyupdate", and that the reports should be sent to to webmaster [at] google.com or via a spam report. Is that spam reporting arrangement still in place?Question and Suggestion:
Can you give us any indication as to whether or not Google will be manually dealing with spammers, using spam reports for fine tuning algos, or a combination of both?
Yes, that arrangement is still in place. We'd still love to hear feedback (or spam reports!). Regarding the second question: it will be used for both.
Just an update: we have an eager production person attempting to switch over the rest of the data centers tonight. We'll see if he makes it. :) Either way, the 64 data should be visible to most/all people within a couple days.
And here's your fun link for the day (quicktime--thought about posting it in foo, but I knew the people here would enjoy it):
http://www.exonemo.com/NP/mov/index.html
Someone in Japan painted a picture of the Google home page. Then he pointed a web cam at it. So if you watch it for a while, you'll see Japanese folks checking it out. :)
[edited by: engine at 6:21 pm (utc) on Feb. 20, 2004]
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