Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[bontar]

It is not a board, it is a chat :P

[sailorjwd]

66.102.11.99

I can confirm that my canonical issue is fixed.

I get zero results when using -www on site command.

However, I still have a few phantom dup supplemental pages showing up - maybe this will be fixed with J3.

[Roolio]

yeah pretty fast posting here. i love it. :-)

[fredde]

strange...more and more DC on mcdar serve old results.

[Patrick Taylor]

sailorjwd

I get zero results when using -www on site command.

Signs of progress.

[g1smd]

>> I can confirm that my canonical issue is fixed. <<

Probably becuse Google is using data so old that it pre-dates the time that you first had a problem.

Have you investigated cache dates? Have you tried getting a page returned for data that was on the page 18 months ago, rather than for current content?

[Yippee]

I dont like 216.239.53.104. Yeah, I hate that DC.

I dont like that one either 66.102.11.99...

Wait, maybe I like that one 66.102.11.99...

OK, I hate it again 66.102.11.99...

Noooo, I love it 66.102.11.99...

Last time, I hate it 66.102.11.99...

If you ask me, it feels like we are getting PR'ed.

*refresh*

[edited by: Yippee at 12:00 am (utc) on Nov. 5, 2005]

[arubicus]

"Probably becuse Google is using data so old that it pre-dates the time that you first had a problem."

All new stuff on my end.

[g1smd]

New as in new pages on your site now indexed?

Or, new as in old stuff is replaced by new?

Or, new as in old stuff just "went away"?

[Yippee]

I would like to buy a vowel please

In a way, arent we ambulance chasing?

[MissusC]

Looks to me like we are back to old indexes across most data centers.
Update didn't work?
Back to old index?
Google imploding?
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[BradStevens]

>>>I would like to buy a vowel please
In a way, arent we ambulance chasing?<<<

Ding! Ding! Ding! And, we have a winner!

[sailorjwd]

g1smd

I'm not as stupid as I look.

I've had the www/nonwww problem for years since I didn't know there was such a thing as non-www since I can't put visible files above the www on my site. That's were I put things that noone can get to.

Maybe I should say I'm not as stupid as I used to look.

[BradStevens]

OMG! I just checked 66.102.11.99 and I'm in the #1 postion. I HAVE NEVER been there!

OK, all DC's can populate with 66.102.11.99 and we can be done with it!

LOL!

OH, I only wish ...

[Yippee]

What did I win, what did I win? I hope its a vacation away from that dag on F5 key.

[Eazygoin]

IMO the latest J2 data is spreading across our normal search DC's. I had a long break from the computer, came back, and virtually all of my keywords are on page one, many of them in number 1 position. Now, don't tell me this is old data, because I wasn't in those positions b4 the update started.
I can give you the DC I am checking if it's of any interest, but then again, I'll probably be told the data is pre 1995!

[driwashsolutions]

Before Jagger, I was #1 for wet widget;
Then at the start of Jagger, nowhere to be found;
Then at the end of Jagger1, around 256;
During Jagger2, moved to 93, then 86, then 3;
Now, on a few DC's I'm back to #1;

Hmmm. What's that saying don't count your chick...

Well, I do like
66.102.9.99
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104

[bigearz]

On 66.102.11.99 I'm still seeing other sites quoting us and linking to us ahead of us, even when I include the site name as well as artist name and album title that I want to find:

[66.102.11.99...]

Worse, searching for an artist name and album title, where we have an exact match page, brings up a different, less relevant page from the site as result #90!

[66.102.11.99...]

At least there's something in the first nine pages of results though, right? I guess we should be happy with that when we were on the first page before.

I'd love it if somebody could tell me if there was something we've done in our coding that could've caused this, but as it hasn't changed and Google's has, I guess not...

Bizarre how MSN, Yahoo/AllTheWeb and Ask Jeeves/Teoma can be so right and Google be so wrong.

[theBear]

LOL

[zikos]

the new index will be online next week,all data centers just cooking a stew.....

[MissusC]

"the new index will be online next week,all data centers just cooking a stew....."

Google cooking a stew while webmasters at WebmasterWorld stew about it.

[iszatmary]

There is definitely something happening, it's the first time since 4 days when new SERP's are showing on some datacenters for our keyword phrases on diferent IPs including: 66.102.11.99.

[otnot]

66.102.11.99 has the most movement that I have seen yet.

[Andrew the Piper]

Woo-hoo!

First post here. (Following the Jagger discussion for a couple weeks now.)

I just checked 66.102.11.99

One of my pages which had gone from #1 to #113 a few weeks ago, is back to #7 at that URL.

You have to understand that my site is not commercial other than I have a banner sponsor for my site. My site is purely niche educational and each page averages about 10-100 hours of research, so my site does not have hundreds of pages, it has only dozens. It's all definitely high quality content and updated frequently.

It's linked from several hundred sites, but only about 40 with enough PR to show up as backlinks in the Google "link:" function.

I hope that URL is the future. It's certainly a drag having uninformative pages in the hundred places before mine—especially since my 3-year-old page merely pointing to the new(er) site URL ranks 40 places higher than the new page!

(Hope. Hope. Hope.)

[adamxcl]

Good luck Andrew...sometimes jumps stick and sometimes they don't. I've had simlar experiences and almost wished I didn't see the high ranking datacenter as it gave a false hope. You never know for sure...but keep hoping.

[pclip]

This is my first post.... have been reading probably a few thousand posts since the beginning and have been shuffling around in the top 4 through it all.... a couple of movements in the 20's but mostly in the top four.... lots of suspense as with all of you....

We are a commercial site but I don't think in a really highly competive field. We have ranked #1 for the whole year until Jagger. As with all of you we have been following and hoping for the best.

Right now some DC's are #1 some #2 some #3 some #4

We all need to wait for the real Jagger 3

[Yippee]

Hello, my name is Yippee and I'm a WebmasterWorld addict. You see, it all started with Jagger when our site tanked and fell into a deep depression........ I thought I can bring it back to life my own way to no avail. Now I am here, and I hope to detox my site.

LOL, WebmasterWorld is an SEO detox, isn't it? I need a drink :o

Whatever you do, don't take the blue pill!

[edited by: Yippee at 2:59 am (utc) on Nov. 5, 2005]

[brokenbricks]

66.102.11.99 is bad bad news

[frup]

66.102.11.99 is something radically different. Absolutely radical.

[2by4]

when I suggested earlier in this thread that google delay the release of jagger 3 so that we could watch some member's heads explode spontaneously, I didn't think they'd actually take me up on the idea, but looks like they may have.

Some members appear to be getting quite close to critical mass, yippee, hang on, time for a refreshing beverage.

Can't make much consistent sense of what I'm seeing on either today's DC of choice or yesterday's. Have to wait and see.

Got to love Matt's continuing use of the term 'become visible', notice he's not saying they're not testing jagger 3, just that it's not 'visible'. I continue to grow increasingly unenlightened by reading his stuff.