Google Update Bourbon Part 3

[Sweet Cognac]

Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[Clint]

Clint.
The site just seems to check if your url is listed. A ban from google would mean even your url would not exist in the system.

EG - search for www.yourdomain.com and nothing comes up.

You may have a penalty - but a ban would mean no listing at all.

Yeah, now if we can only determine WHAT that "penalty" is for, we'd all be in much better shape!

[Dayo_UK]

Duplicate Content Penalty!

You have domains with the same content as your main domain.

You also have duplicate content on your non-www and www.

We have gone through this - I have recommend the apache forum where if you explain your circumstances in full - no doubt someone will help you.

You can ignore this advice or take this advice or you can keep on thinking that it is something else - upto you.

[reseller]

oddsod

>reseller, do you have any reason to believe G actually does anything with those reports?<

I really don´t know, but hope so.

Maybe GoogleGuy can tell us more about it.

[Clint]

Duplicate Content Penalty!
You have domains with the same content as your main domain.

You also have duplicate content on your non-www and www.

We have gone through this - I have recommend the apache forum where if you explain your circumstances in full - no doubt someone will help you.

You can ignore this advice or take this advice or you can keep on thinking that it is something else - upto you.

Naa, not everyone trashed has dupe content. I've by no means been ignoring your advice, in fact, that's what I've been working on for the past 2 days. Some are helping me via Sticky Mail, but it's not working. So right now I'm about to go over to the Apache forum to try and find out how to edit my htaccess file for my domain redirects and www/non-www issue. I know the latter is of no consequence because I put the headers of the poor content, spammy, irrelevant sites that are now in top positions through the header checker, both their www and non www versions, and unfortunately they are all showing the exact http code 200 as mine are showing. :( So, apparently the dupe issue with www and non www versions isn't the cause. (I fail to see why G would penalize sites for that anyway since it's THEIR fault for indexing a www site and the non www version as separate sites and dupe content when it's not).

[Dayo_UK]

Well - Cool as long as you are looking into this. :)

Tell me (well dont - just trying to underline a point/theory) if you had a site which had sub-domains on the following lines:-

hotel.domain.com - PR7
holidays.domain.com - PR8
travel.domain.com - PR0

and they all had exactly the same content of a hotel directory - do you think Google would index all three? or look to ban three? or of course ban two and keep one?

Well hopefully best case senario is that it may keep 1 - previously you would have thought it would keep the one with the highest PR - well that aint always the case so it may keep travel.domain.com - rankings dive.

It may well be exactly the same situation as domain.com and www.domain.com - if Google cant realise that they are the same site then one or both will get a penalty.

Just a theory.

[reseller]

Clint

You may wish to view the following 3 threads concerning 301:

[webmasterworld.com...]

[webmasterworld.com...]

[webmasterworld.com...]

[oldpro]

It is all about the money now my friend. Nothing more nothing less. Stuff content as long as viewers click ads and dollar targets are met. That’s G's new mantra unfortunately. Spam makes thier shareholders lots of $$. Why fight it?

max...

Adsense is an expense to Google. It is the Adwords advertisers that generate the jackpot for everybody to take their cut. Made for adsense spam hurts everybody except the scraper/spammers. It would seem to me that you are way off target with that statement. You are right that Google is concerned about their bottom line...and I would hope they are concerned enough to get rid of these parasites.

[wattsnew]

www/subdomains

What if....

<<
hotel.domain.com - PR7
holidays.domain.com - PR8
travel.domain.com - PR0

and they all had XXexactly the sameXX SIMILAR content of a hotel directory
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Suppose you tagged two of those sites with [google noindex nofollow] so they would still appear in other SEs?

Would Google ignore the duplicate content? (Anyone experimented with this?)

Also, on a single domain site, I have pages that are very useful to customers that Google is showing as URL only - I'm hoping that [google noindex] will let me keep using them without an effect on other pages in the site....

How effective is [GOOGLE, NOINDEX}?

[Dayo_UK]

Wattsnew - I was talking about exactly the same content. Not almost the same content :) - Hopefully Google would just down rank one with similar content (depending on the search term that returns the most relevant site). Depends where the line is of course.

Eitherway IMO robots.txt is a better option that NoIndex in both the cases you explained.

[europeforvisitors]

Dayo_UK, if a site owner had three subdomains with identical pages, why shouldn't Google ban all three? Surely you wouldn't argue that the site owner wasn't trying to spam the index?