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My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]
I just went way off topic... Will post to the supporters forum.
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Justin
There might be some light at the end of the tunnel after all. I just hope it was an auto algo adjustment and not hand edited by someone from G reading these threads.
I doubt if it's even possible for Google personnel to intercede on a case-by-case basis, except to apply or remove penalties (which weren't an issue in my case because rankings weren't down uniformly or universally). Besides, I'm just another small fish in another huge pond. And--just as important--the Bourbon update brought other changes to the SERPs that I watch; for example, massive template-based travel "review" and directory sites, which got a big boost in my sector after March 23, seem to have lost their dominance in the latest update.
Is your traffic back to normal levels you use to seeing since lets say Sep 2004 to around Feb 2005? you know the normal viewers daily count before the wiled up down fluctuations begun.
My traffic seems to be where it was after Allegra in February, when I got at least a 30% boost after having experienced no significant changes at all in Florida and earlier updates.
FWIW, I was talking to a WW member earlier in the week whose content site has been through a similar plunge and resurrection cycle (followed by another plunge). Both of us feel like we're riding surfboards on a sine wave. :-)
Google's stock is through the roof and they're making a killing as it is, they don't need to ban your site or my site to make more money. They're too young to pull those tricks and they don't need to. If their stock starts crashing and they're under pressure to make the expected revenue, then I guess one can speculate.
It is hard to believe that google's current market value is over $46 billion, trading at almost $300 per share. However, with a P/E ratio of 115 to 1 would indicate a strong hint of irrational exuberance.
Even so, to all those who may think Bourbon has anything to do with maximizing revenue...IMHO this is not the case. As an avid searcher I can attest that Google, Yahoo and MSN serps have been terrible for awhile. PPC and the such has spawned so much spam that I have taken to using gigablast.
It is not a matter of maximizing revenue, but rather an attempt to stop the bleeding of market share (ie; users).
I think Brett is at SES-London, so I'm not sure how to figure out how to make a GoogleGuy-only thread. I think we'll get it going though.
I checked, and there is still new data to be used at several data centers. That's why I recommended that people take into account that rankings will still be changing.
I think to most people it pretty well goes without saying that corporations are in to make money and governments tax. But there is always a point when people say it’s to much of something. In other words they feel squeezed.
It appears that penalties have been applied in the first wave of the algo.
Is there any hope at all that perhaps some positive factors haven't yet been applied, which might restore my first place ranking?
All the listings in the SERPs in my areas have lost a few feathers in the backlink update, I was an exception in gaining from 71 to 83 - but that's because people in my niche just love my website. Could this be cause for punishment?
Just go down to the bottom of the page and click "start a new topic".
Even though some here are really upset with this bourbon thing...I am glad ya'll seem to be taking the lead in cleaning up the serps. Abeit in the middle of this "update" it looks even worse. I guess instead of the "calm before the storm"...this is the storm before the calm (I hope).
I understand. I have one site that is nearly a year old, and yet to show in the G SERP's for more than brief periods... Sat. I was there and had traffic for six hours =) It is not causing me to go under, but I can see how if I was solidly founded in G SERPs and then disappeared, it could cause a great deal of loss.
My main thought was realizing that it is not personal, but rather business, keeps me reasonable, and then I can rationally look for a solution.
Sometimes I think we forget that and make emotional decisions rather than fundamentally good decisions.
I am very sorry if the 'out of business' line of your post is even remotely true.
Justin
And yet at the risk of dragging this further off the subject:
Virtually all decisions are based on emotions regardless of logic.
My domain isn't very spammy with commercial sites, the main pollution is from directory and scraper pages, but neither ranked particularly high pre-Bourbon. It's not a huge problem.
My question goes to webmasters familiar with more competitive areas:
How do the "allinanchor" results fare, compared to the straight search queries?
