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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]



My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

europeforvisitors

9:27 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Now that this thread has wandered far off topic and we're about to enter a new phase of the update, mightn't it be a good time for "Google Update Bourbon Part 4"?

Dayo_UK

9:34 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



helleborine

Wow - thanks getting back on topic.

Well 0.5 followed by a 1.0 - as mentioned earlier we are only just over 50% throught this update.

This update is certainly the longest one I have known about.

For the record - does seem static(ish) at the moment - bit of movement for some sites.

Any luck with your tech forum.

EFV

Interesting thought about sub-domains (eg. www) and main domains (non-www) being counted as duplicates? Traffic holding up?

twebdonny

9:35 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Brett, Has the thread been set up for
Googleguy to pose Q and A as he requested?

Thanks

helleborine

9:36 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe we should call the continuation thread Bourbon Update Part 3.5!

schmoker

9:50 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



init funny updates are always during big sales times...Alegra December>xmas burbon June>summer....who's talking about better algo's ,better serps ,better quality and flying pigs,its all smell like fishy and $$$$$$$$$$$,if you check the top 5 money make serps are a monopoly of a handful of websites,not to mention urls here.

oldpro

10:07 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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okay people...you are missing my point with all the "win win win" scenaros

My point is google is wandering away from its original objective with its organic serps if it allows scraper directories to play such a big part in its overall scheme.

These "win win win" situations may also be accomplished by good adsense publishers.

Please consider the fact that scraper directories are violating copyright laws. In this case, the ends does not justify the means. Unless the major search engines clean this mess up, it is only a matter of time that this issue will be decided in the courts...maybe in a State that allows joint and several liability lawsuits which will expose Google contingent liability.

It is not only a matter of principal...it is a matter of law. There has much been said of google penalizing websites that link to "bad neighborhoods". IMO if any SE allows this kind of activity, they themselves are a "bad neighborhood"

I am all for adsense publishers increasing traffic to my website, however I do take offense when I run my website thru copyscape and find scores of copyright infringements. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it. By my definition, "bad adsense publishers" are lazy and just looking for a short-cut to a quick buck. Definitely not something to be proud of or brag about.

Any publisher worth their salt would agree with me.

Everybody, please forgive me that I have gotten this thread off-topic. However, I do believe (or hope) that Bourbon has much to do with this resolving this problem.

reseller

10:13 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Folks

Would you be kind to translate what GG meant by:

- Here's the advice that I'd give now: take a break from checking ranks for several more days.

Translation:

- Bourbon includes something like 3.5 improvements in search quality, and I believe that only a couple are out so far.

Translation:

- The 0.5 will go out in a day or so, and the last major change should roll out over the next week or so.

Translation:

- Then there will still be some minor changes after that as well.

Translation:

Tropical Island

10:23 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My interpretation:

The storm is far from over.

walkman

10:27 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



> Here's the advice that I'd give now: take a break from checking ranks for several more days.
makes sense since we can't do much anyway. But in a few days maybe they'll try to refine the algo. Until then, it's the same.

> Bourbon includes something like 3.5 improvements in search quality, and I believe that only a couple are out so far.
This doesn't sound good, if he meant it literally. Those "couple" of improvments caused these threads; a few more will just add more people /sites to the list :)

> The 0.5 will go out in a day or so, and the last major change should roll out over the next week or so.
They'll another small thing from their patent on the 3rd and two more a week later.

> Then there will still be some minor changes after that as well.
Tweaking..

BillyS

10:27 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The storm is far from over.

I just hope the second half of this storm gets me out of the sandbox.

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