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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]



My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

danny

8:00 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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GoogleGuy writes:
take a break from checking ranks for several more days

I had already given that up -- it was just too depressing.

But thanks for letting us know there are changes still to come, that gives me some hope.

Dayo_UK

8:18 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Cool Thanks GG.

Would love a Q&A session. Bit of concrete advice on caconical urls and non-www to www redirects would be cool. (Of couse hopefully the change coming in the next few days might make that un-necessary) - but from the posts in this thread and stickies I have exchanged this seems to be a bit of a problem.

All the best

Dayo

arubicus

8:19 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We are still suffering just the same as broker_boy has mentioned. I would enjoy somewhat of an answer also!

Dayo_UK

8:21 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Oops - Brokerboy posted while I was typing.

GG - I know there will be a seperate thread. But sites with the Canoical url problem seem to go url only eventually on the non-www and the www homepage (starts off that url only on non-www and then www follows (non-www takes over from www?))

I just cant see how these sites are going to come back - even with the 301 - mainly as the non-www has so few backlinks or is considered duplicate of the www.

Anyway - night night - hope you had a good holiday.

Sorry to pounce on you - good to know that things are moving - ps you wont improve your post count in G update threads - Adwordsadvisor is catching ;)

crobb305

8:28 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have seen improvements to canonicalization as it pertains to my site:

1) The home page ranks #1 for its unique name (during the last year, it ranked somewhere higher than spot 50. Then in the past 2 weeks, it gradually migrated to the number one spot.)
2) The home page ranks #1 for ALL content phrases taken from my homepage searched in quotes. As recent as two months ago, all of that content would have been stuffed into the supplemental basket with scrapers out ranking my own content.
3) I am ranking now for obscure phrases, and getting a trickle of traffic.
4) I am getting more freuqent deep crawls (100%), and two of my internal pages have returned to full title/desc. Hoping the remainder of my url-only listings will go to full title/desc with the next update.

Bear, Dayo_UK, and Zeus you guys are familiar with my situation. Are you guys seeing anything similar? Maybe my site has just started a reputation recovery and has lived out its penalty (which started a year ago with tracker2/302 hijackings).

The site is 4 years old, and has always had unique content written myself. So, it seems reasonable that my content would rank #1, with scrapers below me. I hope that the next update will bring some more popular phrases back into the mix for me.

C

[edited by: crobb305 at 8:37 am (utc) on June 1, 2005]

Dayo_UK

8:33 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



crobb305

Good news for you :)

Not really seeing anything yet - now and then I see a glimmer of hope but not much.

Fingers crossed for more improvements.

Reseller

I hope you did not play any fat lady singing records over the last few days ;)

etraffic104

8:38 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey, GoogleGuy?

You mentioned you are going to set up posts with Brett?

I'd love to read your posts. Let us know when and where!

By the way, you're not working for Google, are you? Or should I rather not ask?

Dayo_UK

8:41 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



etraffic104

Yep he works for Google.

GG - Has said previously (cant find thread - prob 302 thread) that caconical urls are on the radar.

If so Google - please lock and load.

etraffic104

8:52 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

you mentioned Caconical URL's.

Never heard of them. You mentioned them in 704 in another thread. What are they? I probably know what they are, I just don't know the term.

crobb305

8:53 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone here have enough experience with watching these types of sites recover to answer this qustion:
How long of a proccess is it from seeing your first obscure phraes ranking well, to seeing more competetive terms ranking well. I know the data are computed iteratively and so results come in fragments that build over time. I am hoping for full recovery with the next update--within the next month based on the observations I posted about #790. Is that realistic?
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