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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

sailorjwd

1:24 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yikkes.. Things are hopping all over. My exact company name search went from 98th to 40th in 10 mins.

And, 1200 of 2650 results (mostly spammers) removed from search results for my company name.

annej

1:24 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How well I remember when I switched to Google a few years ago. My dad had just been diagnosed with cancer. I did the usual AltaVista search and got nothing but obituaries. So I tried Google and got top national medical sites. The same could happen again if a really good search engine appears on the scene. Word spreads fast.

Back on the topic of this thread. Listen to the people posting that they have had a big drop on older well established content sites. The same has happened to me with one of my sites that is about 5 years old. up until now any time I uploaded a new article on it I could be sure it would be in the first page or two in Google serps with appropriate key words. Now they are several pages down. There must be a key here as to what caused the change and what can be done. I do wonder if these old well established sites have been damaged by having so many scraper sites linking to them.

max_mm

1:27 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Don't you find it funny how Yahoo serps now directly influence Google serps (due to the yahoo scrappers problem i mentioned).

How brilliant and easy was that for Yahoo to do?
Bringing google down with a very simple tactic (offering free feeds to webmaster). I am extremely impressed!.

Honestly, I don't see how google are going to recover and tackle this mess without first ditching the link evaluation algo to determine site quality based on incomming links.

We are the only ones to suffer the consequences though.

Shame on you Poogle.

RichTC

1:38 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I dont think old and new come into this, although some older sites do get preferential treatment over newer more relevent sites imo, but thats another matter.

The whole idea of a search engine is to produce relevent results - thats it, plain and simple. Google are no longer doing this.

Google has added so much to the mix now that rather than create a tasty dish it has created a foul mess.

They need to get back to what they were once good at. Put the search request in - Get on topic results out!Thats why we all started using Google over Altavista.

Currently its about 12% on topic, The results are either non relevent or from poor directory sites or as i said earlier older sites with re-directs from spam doorway pages or non relevent sites that carry links to relevent ones.

Last Friday they had it almost right, i just dont get it now, but more than anything i cant understand why google engineers are not seeing this - that i dont get.

Any idiot can see these results are not right

Sweet Cognac

1:45 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I find this all interesting, the sector I watch has no directories in it, no spammy sites, and no scrapers. The first one hundred sites are all informational content sites.

Maybe because I'm not in a money making sector?

Konas

1:52 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



lol i see more spam sites that has higher rank than real content site. If you dont believe me check this out <snip> :) Its pretty easy to get 1 or 2 on this google update and i'm creating more spam sites now.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 2:45 pm (utc) on June 1, 2005]
[edit reason] please - no specific urls. thanks. [/edit]

netchicken1

2:27 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I gotta agree with sweet cognac.
No changes at all for me, maybe it is only in the highly fought and spammed keywords that are suffering?

max_mm

2:54 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I gotta agree with sweet cognac.
No changes at all for me, maybe it is only in the highly fought and spammed keywords that are suffering?

Don't think so. One of my sites that got badly hit is an old (5-6 years old) site. Approx 1000 content pages. Very niche industry trading site (textile related) and has nothing to do with money keywords.

This site used to be an authority site in it's filed and used to come up for many industry trade related jargon words (very niche keywords). The site used to enjoy approx 2500 G referrals per day and it is now almost nil (comes up only for very obscure terms or keyphrases with double quotes). The site has gained approx 20,000 new scrapper links since the beginning of march and took a small hit already then. It completely disappeared after bourbon.

When i do a search for my domain name (which is very unique/distinctive i get 20,000 scrappers coming up with a link to my site while my site is no where to be seen.

The site is an outperformer on yahoo. Coming up number one for many of it's keywords and ended up linked form thousands of yahoo scrappers (scarppers targeting the textile industry keywords) as a result.

MLHmptn

3:09 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So are any of you webmasters going to promote MSN and Yahoo now? Seems half this thread is anti-google (finally)!

funandgames

3:45 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Every update the same thing and the same end result. Google gets stronger and life goes on. My sites never move much and I miss all the action once again. Google is here to stay, adapt and work to make your sites more Google friendly.
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