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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

Mauricio

8:53 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



More changes?
2 off 3.5? It means we are only seeing 60% off the fully trashed search results?
If my site has lost 95% off Google referrers, will I loose the 5%?

Maybe it was no the Bourbon update but the Murphy update: things could go worse.

Dayo_UK

8:57 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



etraffic104

Probably because I keep on spelling it wrong - correct spelling is caconical!

Loads of threads about it!:-

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nutsandbolts

8:59 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You heard the boss, more changes to this specific update to come. No point stressing over anything until that happens. Thanks GG for the heads up. (Oh, and can you remember to press the "missing sites back in the index" button, cheers ;) )

steveb

9:03 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good news, GG. A Q&A thread would be cool... and I won't even ask if you are ready to recant that higher-PR/hijack thingee yet... :)

As for the folks ready to start burning witches, the update is still underway. Put away your torches at least until you see their finished product. Also, every major update of the past few years involved good quality "lost" sites that soon were reranked fairly properly after a short time of recrawling and re calculating of link pop. I would guess that will happen with some sites mentioned here (though definitely not all).

broker_boy

9:08 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Apologies about the repost but i couldn't edit my previous post inorder to clarify the situation more fully.
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Google Guy,

I was meta refresh hijacked over 2 months ago by an unrelated site. Since we identified the problem (which took us from number 1 in over 100 financial phrases in uk) and had the hijack removed, we have been patiently waiting for google to come back and respider the site (it was made url only after it was hijacked).

However the first deepcrawl only took 30% of the site - it reappeared in google partially after this but on only 5 or so keywords and typically in positions 21st as opposed to the 1st positions it held prior to the hijack. Our main keyword followed a week later (about 2 weeks ago) but when it reappeared the home page had lost its cashe.

When it regained its cashe last week, it lost its ranking on its main kw again - it did not even appear in the top 1,000. However,it still retains its positions in the kw's that reappeared first

So we emailed you guys again and you gave me the canned email regarding spider activity etc.

So we waited for the spider again ... this time on a partial deep crawl over last weekend, and it took only 20% of the site and those pages it did visit have now lost their cashe. So now I have 10 out of 1000+ pages with a cashe that are not supplementary listings.

I am starting to think that the site data at google is so corrupted after the hijack that I simply can't get it back again. In the end of the day I, like many other victims of hijacking, feel very aggrieved by the situation. For me it is very serious. My business cannot survive long without the income and I may well go bust.

Like I have said in my previous emails to google (case ref #24943131), if I have done something wrong then I'll accept my punishment - but this whole caconical url problem is a harsh way to lose your livelihood. If this whole caconical url problem only happens to people who have done something wrong - as you claimed some time ago, then you should first sort out the hijacking problem and THEN slap a penalty on the offending site. At least then we can see what is actually going on. Otherwise for a long time the hijacked site would be unable to identify the underlying problem.

Bourbon was expected (by me and many others including Dayo-uk), to finally fix the caconical problem. However, so far, I see no real evidence that Bourbon will suceed.

You say there is still over a week to run.... will this include a full deepcrawl of caconical sites? I don't think my site will ever recover without a full deepcrawl but I am concerned that the hijacking has reduced my pr so much that googlebot has decided not to go deeply into the site (again Dayo-uk is in a similar postion).

I think many people who have put their heart and soul into very well constructed content rich websites are suffering because of a technical glitch within google.

Please, please, please respond to me (or via a sticky I don't mind which).

Kind regards,

Broker Boy

[edited by: broker_boy at 9:10 am (utc) on June 1, 2005]

etraffic104

9:09 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Dayo_uk.

Now I understand! That's pretty cool if that will happen! I can't wait to see the new changes. No sense in refocussing my strategies until G is done.

arubicus

9:10 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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From what I have seen Google Guy is pretty daring to step in front of this crowd. Will be interesting to watch and I have already bought my tickets.

Dayo_UK

9:26 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Oh well - I guess it is a case of waiting now.

Really hard to concentrate on work though

coconutz

9:35 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's nice to hear that the update is not quite over. But somehow I get the feeling that my pages that no longer rank for relevant phrases are going to move much.

It's almost as if the quality inbound links to my pages are being ignored....

reseller

9:35 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

>Reseller

I hope you did not play any fat lady singing records over the last few days ;) <

AND THE OLD RESELLER HEREBY STAND CORRECTED, until further ;-)

But here is what happened this morning while we were exchanging posts with GG.

My 17 years old daughter (first year in High School of Commerce) should deliver her final examn project (30 pages in colour in 4 examples) today before 12 am. She should also email the project to 3 of her merry fiends who participate in the project. Her printer passed away this morning. So she hijacked my PC for more than an hour. Then I should drive her to school. Why girls always depend on their fathers good will sooooooooo much :-)

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