Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[Powdork]

I am still at a loss as to which information people are referring to when they say it. J3 as of when?

The excellent results rolled out two days ago that lasted until yesterday were not J3. To me they looked pre Jagger although others mentioned being #1 there for the first time ever. It almost seems as though the J1 and J2 data had to be removed in order to roll out J3, which never retreated from 66.102.7.104 as far as I can tell.

[stateless]

Yes, it's important to hold some restraint, but more and more datacentres do appear to be mirroring what is on 66.102.9.104 , which is what Matt said would happen? Is that not the case?

[soapystar]

theres an interesting trend in the movie world these days to follow a sequel with a prequel....

[Eazygoin]

I am confused about the DC's spreading, because when I check words, they appear close, but some are 20 places apart from one DC to the next....surely, they would be the same if the DC's were being mirrored?

[Pico_Train]

ummmmm, boring.

[linkjack]

What are you on this morning, linkjack? Get me some of that stuff ASAP. 8-^

I have revealed the secrets of the force. Use it wisely.

[zikos]

linkjack
Good! LOL

[soapystar]

linkjack....

did you put that in a spreadsheet?

[ssjxxx]

TammyJo:

I am still at a loss as to which information people are referring to when they say it. J3 as of when?

You're not the only one. I still see something that looks like J1 or J2 on most DCs. Heck, it might even be pre-Jagger. The cached pages that are showing up for my sites on site:domain.com queries are certainly pre-Jagger. Sure, I do see some pages being updated in the cache, but many are not being updated. During the time when we new that *9* contained J3, I saw all of these old cached pages cleaned up and updated. That is all gone now. I cannot find my updated pages anywhere. Does anyone have a good J3 DC that we can look at?

-S

[Powdork]

Linkjack
Would you pass the hyper dutchey this way please.

[webdude]

mmmmm... My default google is still showing just 12 results out of 2,970,000 for my phrase. The results are not the same as what is on 9 or 7. It appears that it is taking a while.

[theBear]

>>>
mmmmm... My default google is still showing just 12 results out of 2,970,000 for my phrase. The results are not the same as what is on 9 or 7. It appears that it is taking a while.<<<

The missing 2,969,988 results were all of the ebay pages that "shopping" site on Matts blog put into the results.

They haven't gotten rid of them yet so the counters are a bit off but they are hidden and had no bearing on the results. ;) ;) :)

[King of all Sales]

I met a Hyper Dutchey once. She was visiting New York and we met in a bar. She kept me up all night.

[ssjxxx]

I met a Hyper Dutchey once.

We're getting way off the Jagger topic here. Just remember to pass the Hyper Dutchey to the left-hand side, ok?

Anybody know of a good DC where J3 results can be seen?

-S

[soapystar]

King of all Sales

if its the Hyper Dutchey im thinking of..thats a bloke in drag....

[selomelo]

Right now, G is conducting an exhaustive crawl (at least for my site) from 66.249.64.* and 66.249.71.*.

It seems interesting, since different pages seem crawled from a different IPs simultaneously:

Page A from 66.249.71.54
Page B from 66.249.71.44
Page C from 66.249.71.74 and so on.

I think we will wake up with fresh indexes tomorrow!

[King of all Sales]

Soapystar -

It was dark in that bar.

[Powdork]

selomelo,
You're not cloaking anything are you?

[Hanu]

I'm gonna wake up in wet pajamas if this thread continues like this ...

[reseller]

ssjXXX

>>Anybody know of a good DC where J3 results can be seen?<<

I guess you can still J3 on these 4 DCs

66.102.9.99
66.102.9.104

66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104

[edited by: reseller at 9:49 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

[selomelo]

Powdork: "selomelo,
You're not cloaking anything are you? "

No. It is just my blog where I post my daily murmurs (well, a bit louder). No links, no backlinks, no comments. Nothing other than my personal messages.

[zikos]

since j3 is spreading at 31 DC's I have a tremendous traffic though is Friday night.I continue have the J3 results at my default .com co.uk .de .

[Powdork]

selomelo,
Can you tell if one of the bots is following js links or redirects?
It seems nowadays one of the favorite tricks is to use a doorway page with an onmouseover redirect that has been rewritten in ascii characterslike so
onMouseOver="eval(unescape('Ascii link here'));"
There is even a time delay of about 7 seconds which may be what is confusing the bots.

[followgreg]

I don't see J3 on 31 DC's personally I tend to agree with our friend reseller, J3 would be on the DC's he mentioned.

[Leosghost]

carefull this thread is getting better ..making no more sense but getting better/more amusing ..

BTW.. tigger ..having just taken a look at your link outs ..if you dont know why you dropped ..~:o

your place reads like a pron portal ..
I have no problem with that ..I have some..some of you may even be subscribers ..but I dont expect "g" to rank me on page one for our town guides ....ROTFALOL

[edited by: Leosghost at 10:48 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

[selomelo]

Powdork,

No. It is a wordpress directory at my site. I installed a permalink redirect plugin (301 with php) to handle dupe content problems with wordpress, a counter plugin, and another plugin for forced (301) redirect from non-www to www.
BTW, my site bumping up with the J3 (from prejagger #35 to #3. Also, my blog posts seem ranking well.

Do you think that there is a problem if separate pages are crawled simultaneously from different IPs? Or, is there anyone with a similar experience?

[bobble]

I've seen a lot of this with the new Update..... Hidden text, especially text that is hidden in CSS or DIV layers.

If you are using javascript and Xml to change textual content on your site without refreshing the page you have <div>'s with "hidden text" on the page source. Is this considered spam by the new Update?

[caveman]

Ive never seen so many different factors evolve in such a short space of time

I tend to agree with that, as much as one is even able to tell so far.

And count me as one who thinks that the recips issue is overblown. The blatant and lousy link exchanges maybe hurting, but that's an extension of a long standing trend. If you can't see trends like that and act on them in advance, you're in for a long hard battle. That one dates back to Florida, at least.

People must keep in mind that there is absolutely no news in Matt or anyone else from G suggesting that one way quality inbounds are the best sorts of links to get. "Best sorts" to get is quite different from "only sorts" to get.

[Eazygoin]

Matt apparently said at PubCon "Best links are earned, not sold or traded. You may not get what you pay for."
He said, if someone is selling text links, they should give you a free test trial to make sure it works. They have both manual and algorithmic approaches to detect paid links. He said Google.com gets emails asking to trade links. The guy who came up with the pixel homepage thing, that was creative."

Not sure if that helps or not :-)

That comes from the link posted by Dayo_UK number 1118

[Powdork]

People must keep in mind that there is absolutely no news in Matt or anyone else from G suggesting that one way quality inbounds are the best sorts of links to get.

From Matt Cutt's Blog

The best links are not paid, or exchanged after out-of-the-blue emails–the best links are earned and given by choice.