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Over and done with?
All done all through?
>>reseller, I am seeing the two different versions of j3 (.7. and .9.) at all datacenters, plus some flux.<<
I see version .9. only on .9. and .11.
But as you said correctly version .7. can be seen on most of the DCs.
Question is which one is Jagger3? version .9. or .7. or both?
Personally I think its version .9.
Matt also wrote something about .9. in his latest J3 weather report:
* Jagger3 was visible starting at 66.102.9.104 around 11/4/2005. Jagger3 is not widely visible yet (it might also be at 216.239.51.104), but I expect it migrate to other data centers over time.
[added] Unless the folks at the plex have decided to proceed with .7. and left .9. to age on .9. and .11. :-) [/added]
[edited by: reseller at 7:41 am (utc) on Nov. 19, 2005]
I think I was justified in being 'rude' Tigger
Colin_h......where do you get off saying crap like that to anyone?
if thatt is so what about if your link partenaires discover it and remove your links as well?By the next PR update I guess you will lose some PR and some good rankings ,am I wrong?
Tell us how your sites are doing on .7.?
A Reseller is always interested in affiliate program marketing, you know ;-)
Zikos, My sites have never built link relationships, they always seemed too shaky and have always taken a bashing during algo updates.
My main point this morning is an anti spam message. If you do anything to your website in order to list higher on search engines ... you are a spammer. Call it what you wish, target marketing, market forces or just plain competition ... you are unnaturaly affecting a search engine listing and that's taking the food from the mouth of someone more worthy than you.
Get with it ... SPAM STINKS and so does anyone who uses it.
I think the problem is we all have different ways of running our websites/business and some of us need that affiliate income to pay wages and bills and unfortunately I'm one of those. Also this update has worn me so down maybe I wasn't putting myself over well - either way I think we both understand each other and its time to move on
Don't ask Reseller ;0(
But at least now I have a bit of a recovery plan forming - shame its probably going to take a couple of years to pull back
On a lighter note I had to report my local railway station to google this morning as it was getting number 2 listing for "local web design". I've seen the trend in a number of regions also.
I would have thought that google should have found this and dismissed for being daft enough to tell them where to find the hidden text.
lol ;-0
Then why in the world are you involved in a forum that specifically targets webmasters who WANT to better their search engine results?
"Call it what you wish, target marketing, market forces or just plain competition ... you are unnaturaly affecting a search engine listing and that's taking the food from the mouth of someone more worthy than you"
Who has determined what is "natural" and what isn't? Google? Why are they right? If Google said tomorrow that they now encourage link exchanges, would you start exchanging links? Would we no longer be liars and cheaters if Google says it's ok now?
Listen, if we both sell widgets and you put up a sign on the highway and I put up a bigger sign and sell more widgets, would I be making improper use of my sign because I would get more customers? I would hope that we could coexist in the same marketplace, but if there were only enough customers for one of us, I would hope it would be you who went out of business, not me.
So, how's the Jagger update coming along? :-)
>>Don't ask Reseller ;0(
But at least now I have a bit of a recovery plan forming - shame its probably going to take a couple of years to pull back <<
Sorry to hear that. Maybe its time to reconsider new thinking within affiliate program marketing to meet the "new" search engines conditions. Most industries keep developing new business methods and models. Not much has happened on the affiliate marketing fronts.
Power to affiliate program marketing ;-)
Within the sector I watch, I see these two DCs different from the rest of the DCs. However, I see on the two DCs fresh cache of some of my pages in addition to perfectly ordered pages when run command site: ( I know GG said that I shouldn't pay much attention to that).
216.239.59.99
216.239.59.104
Of course I don't know whether the serps of those 2 DCs wil stay around or just vanish during today or the weeknd :-)
It's google's highway that your putting your sign on.
Selling red widgets is fine ...
Seling red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets, red widgets is SPAM and it does not make you more relevant than billy widget down the road.
I don't know you and I'm sure that you wouldn't stoop to these tactics. But it happens and since my business went down the pan I want to hang out here and point out how uneven the playing field has become.
I think that google algo does not automatically dismiss any form of spamming, if it did there wouldn't be half of the sites in the present top listings. Instead I think they are improving access to people who want to report spammers and thus making their job a bit easier.
All the best
And to you too.. and to you too....and to you too...
:-)
On that note....I've just got to get to bed if I'm going to have any energy to sit on the couch tomorrow and watch football.....goodnight.
colin_h - you said on an another thread that a site went PR0 and then regained its PR over the last few months - does that site still have PR - does it rank - or is that a dead'un.
Any chance you can sticky me the site url?
Also there was a tool (method of searching) once posted at WebmasterWorld that showed PR to the nearest decimal point - anyone got a link to that thread - it was ages ago and might not work anymore but it was like a strange serp page I think. Anyone remember it - or did I dream it.
Note to self - when looking for Web Design Jobs in the Norwich area dont send CV to railway company ;)
>>Wow - Googlebot crawled my homepage last night :)<<
Rumor has it that Matt, who is at present at Kentucky for Thanksgiving, has phoned Google Crawle & Index Team asking to send Googlebot to visit your homepage. Just to tell you that you are not forgotten and a Thanksgiving from your side at the Pub might cure your canonicals things :-)
Buying links, selling links and trading links is all natural.
I naturally want to advertise my website. So I will naturally do whatever it takes to accomplish that, naturally.
As far as scraper adsense sites? Google is the biggest. So as far as I'm conserned, if google can do it, why can't everyone else? Google created this mess.
Spam? Spam is something that is forced upon you without you requesting it. If there is spam in googles results and you click on it, it becomes something you requested. Therefore it is not spam. You call it spam but it is not.
If I want to trade links with the whole world, why is that dishonest or a lie? Google based their entire page rank algo from the odds of a random surfer stumbling on your site. Right?
If a link to my site is in every directory or link page on the internet, I am sure a random surfer will find my site eventually. And what is wrong with me creating a directory listing all of the websites that link to my site?
This whole link spam thing is crazyness. Google is just going against their original PR algo in the name of "Un-natural Links"? Where is the logic in that?
Looking at my stats I don't think it's the same for all DC's nor do I expect it to last but it's welcome no the less :)
SeK612
When did the site that has now returned go missing?
Yep when did this site vanish?
I was convinced, the big bang would happen last night. I was sure to see my site back on #1 this morning, to see visitors rushing in.
What happened: Nothing. But I can see a bit encouraging results on post jagger 3 DCs.
Time for breakfast...
When did the site that has now returned go missing?
The last major update a few months back (around the same time I implimented a 301 redirect for a new domain for the site :)). It came back in the Jagger updates (it peaked at around #6 but then fell to the bottom of the first page on SERP's). But has improved since yesterday to #1.
Checking around it does only seem to be a few select DC's and I realy don't expect it to last, but it'd be great if my site does improve a bit more in the SERP's.
Funny shuffling around all DC's...
Now that's really weird I see websites that stood still on 9.104 and 7.104 which I assumed being the most updated SERP and now they have disapeared totally off the top 1,000 for one or 2 of their keywords while for other KW's (related, almost the same) their SERP looks great....this time I'm about the give up...I don't get it :(
