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New results on 64...

I'll settle for that although I like Jagger2 more, but I don't believe this is final as some of the results are too far off target

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Looks like its spreading a bit;

64.233.161.147
64.233.161.105
64.233.161.99
216.239.39.104
216.239.39.99

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Yes, they are both moving. Well 3 dc sets - so perhaps hard to say they are the same as they keep switching.
216.239.37.104, 216.239.39.104 and 64.233.161.104

Which makes me think it is still Jagger2 (stage whatever) - or something different (perhaps old)

I agree with you.

Perhaps Jagger2 is starting to spread to the other DCs now...

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I am sure Jagger 3 hasn't started yet. When it does, I expect to see my home page title appear at number one in the rankings (a fairly obscure title, it is way down past twenty pages at the moment). This will be my indication of the third update....
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I don't think Jagger3 has started either but the results that keep changing definately look better (for me anyway)
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another thing i have just noticed is that when i refresh the results and get what I'd call the "better" results, there are more of them.

ie: for the "not so good" results, there is around 3.5Mil but on the "good" ones, there is nearer 4Mil.

Would this be a good sign or am I being too over optimistic?

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All I see is Jagger2 on those DCs :-/

Can't really see anything changing.

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I see pages vanishing from the supplemental index on some DCs when I do the site: search with old names of my site.

I rewrote .htaccess in February to 301 all domain names to the cacophonical (sp?) www-page.

Can anyone else see vanishing pages from supplemental index too?

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Yes I do (from 953 to 9700, but I do nothing to redirect because of Russian search engines
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I've done two searches of this kind: 'site:mydomain.com -site:www.mydomain.com'

On 64.233.161.104 I see 66 supplemental results (no one exists right now, since I fixed it with 404 two weeks ago)

On 66.102.9.104 I see 10 supplemental results.

So from my point of view, 66.102.9.104 is much more accurate/new/better than 64.233.161.104 (also the SERPS look better for my interests).

However, I don't think either of them is Jagger3, because I've been watching the same SERPS since Jagger 2 on the two DC.

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if i refresh I see different results

Results on some of the DCs mentioned ARE different

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66.102.9.104 Results are flawed from what I see.

Not only is it giving credit for large link buying but in the listings I see sites having spots in 1, 8, 10 and 16 positions.

So it's showing 4 different pages from one site in 4 different spots in the top 20 instead of the usual indenting. I see it for numerous site across various searches not just geared to what I watch.

I seriously doubt that is what Google is intending which is why I doubt those results will stay.

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Happy Canonicals Day!

Hi Folks

Today you are witnessing very historical moments; the birth of a new worldwide national day. Celebrating victory of Google over the evil of Canonicals.

From now on, each and every year, on the 2nd November, this planet webmasters and their love ones shall celebrate "Canonicals Day".

And there will be Canonical Day merchandise availbale at major cities. Items like: greeting cards, car magnets, bracelets, customised garments etc..

And webmasters worldwide shall also remember on such a historical day, the victims of the evil canonicals. As a symbol of that, a moniment of Dayo_UK shall be created and placed at the center of Norwich City/UK :-)

Wish you all a Happy Canonicals Day.

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Happy Canonical to you also :)

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Lol - All Danes Crazy Reseller? ;). Monument of me would get egged (probably by me for a start)

Happy Canonicals Day :) - Reseller and JuniorOptimizer

Happy Canonicals Day GG & MC?

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And not to forget:

Happy Canonicals Day to Brett and the mods :-)

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Wow.. reuslts are changing almost constantly in my market. I'm page 2, then page 3, then not in the top 20 pages at any given time. But that's been going on all through jagger, just not this rapidly. It looks like I'm very close to a penalty in some regard and if they tweak a dial and I cross the line, BOOM I drop like a rock.

Is it too early to start drinking?

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I'll drink with you Pixie... To being in the gutter, cheers!

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Although reseller we might still be on Canonical Eve & Therefore time for a drink!

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 3:29 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]

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Weird, on 66.102.11.99 and 66.102.9.99 I'm nowhere to be found. But on all the others I've moved up 3 - 4 spots on my key terms.

anyone else notice anything weird about those DC's?

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Seeing three very distinctive sets of results now.

216.239.57.105

64.233.161.99

66.102.11.104

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Cobain6:

Considering our legit site is beening buried deeper and deeper into the the neverlands of man eating spam, don't you think that that this jagger update should really have been named, cobain6? As in 6 feet under!

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Dayo_UK

>>Although reseller we might still be on Canonical Eve & Therefore time for a drink!<<

Shouldn't we wait for GG & Matt to join us :-)

I can hear the footsteps of Jagger3...

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<<Shouldn't we wait for GG & Matt to join us :-)

Maybe they have a real great party right now listening to the Stones...and the Update is just a joke ;)

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"Seeing three very distinctive sets of results now.
216.239.57.105

64.233.161.99

66.102.11.104"

216.239.57.105 - is showing the old/not- updated results

So my feeling is the other two 64.233.161.99 or 66.102.11.104 are the candidates for Jagger 2 and Jagger3.

I hope is 66.102.11.104.

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Does anyone have seen Europeforvisitors?
He is down again while his spamy competitor is up...
check at munich travel and munich accommodation...

I actually think that the site at #1 is pretty good. Navigation is easy, design and colors are pleasing, and most importantly information is relevant. You're calling it spammy?

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ISZ,

I hope quite the opposite!

That DC has me nowhere to be found!

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Dayo_UK,

How would you know/verify the the Canonical problem has been fixed?

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66.102.11.104 would be a better candidate, the others are showing old results, looks cleaner from where I stand.

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interestingly I am seeing new results on

[64.233.161.147...]

after I refresh a couple of times and get the larger results returned

Other DCs I see results from before

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