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No, i dont think so. WWW is a subdomain,too, and will be also listed when checking site:domain.com. I guess in your special case (i am sure its not domain.com, right?;)) there never exist a canonical problem.
Don't visit for a couple of months and look what happens! ;)
Can't access J1 thread, so hope I'm not repeating.
Dunno which data centre we call from downunder, but FYI, some of my competitors, who indulged in "circular" reciprocal link/farm pages are nowhere. Gone. Disappeared from view. Stopped looking after they still didn't turn up at results #70-80, when previously they dominated the top 10.
And I'm no expert, but from here it also looks like G. is filtering offshore hosting. A "pages from Australia" search returns domains I know are hosted on local servers (regardless of the TLD, 2tld).
So, looks to me like, if you indulge in circular reciprocal/link farm AND you host offshore, you can wave goodbye to your local rank results.
A few of my results have dropped out of top 10-20, but on the other hand, a number of pages on our primary portal web site, have rocketed up in both full web *and* Australia only results, some up to #1, from top 20 and lower rankings.
So as you can imagine, at this stage, I'm not complaining, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
Figured G. was gonna move on link based page rank/results at some stage, just surprised it took them this long.
like a keyword which had its official site as #1 is now # 3, Plently of forums and scrappers still coming in results specially for 2-3 word phrases.
On part of google (we are losing some - a bit of traffic) but I think going down with the SEOed sites is a good idea of increasing relevancy on part of google and returning the internet to its original idea
The great leveller ....as I always felt the internet was.
Will GoogleGuy please confirm if still more changes are in store after this update (is this Jagger 3 or not and if so is there a Jagger 4 in pipeline)
BTW who names these updates:)
How I wish scrapper sites get the boot of google and adsense both....
Just wondering because I had read in the forum somewhere that it might change when google works of the cannonical issue, if the pr was split between non www and www sites. Apparently, I like a lot of people have this problem as I see both when I do the site:mydomain.com
One other thing, I just the McDar Datacenter quickcheck tool to check for # of pages indexed on the 64.* datacenter banks and it now shows zero pages indexed for my domain had been showing somewhere in the area of 1000 pages, but I am still coming up well on a search for my main keywords or phrases so this is confusing to me...ideas...thoughts?
Sorry - just thought that was worth a LOL.
Brett - one of your cats called Bill :) - Good name for a cat.
Hmmmmz - is today the day - cant see any DC that might be the way forward yet - and it is Wednesday in Google land ;) - ok very early though.
Exactly. Our site sells niche widgets (hate that term). There are at least thirty sites which sell exclusively those niche widgets. None of them (including us) appear in the first three pages on G.(as of this morning) Result - spend more on adwords. Simple really
If you swap links with quality sites as well as add other quality sites to your links page then there is no problem…. Unless you have a massive links farm then I suppose only a percentage of those links are counted… but the site has got to be made up of mostly external links.
[edited by: Eazygoin at 9:26 am (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]
Dont know where you are looking mate - Yahoo?
Jagger2 is on less than half of the DCs still.
No sign of Jagger3 yet.
I've lost a significant amount of Google traffic on old sites, some of them 5+ years old, but to stay honest they didn't deserve their former rankings. A while ago I've dumped a few established SEO tactics, all WH stuff like honest link building campaigns BTW, and (re)invented a few. It was worth it.
I hate the update thread whining and usually I don't post in those soap operas, but I thought somebody should say something positive: The Jagger update rocks!
I hope so for your sake Sebastian, I wouldn't want you to join the rest of us 'whiners'. I think many of us are finding solace in some of the emails since we are in the same boat. Today could make or break some business's so you should forgive us our moanings.
That is so true. Many of us have had a good ride and it may be time to re-invent ourselves, including a whole lifestyle change. I am seriously thinking of down sizing, going CO2 neutral and discovering what my children's names are!
Its kind of exciting to have a new clean slate, with a fresh start. Every cloud has a silver lining.
Last time before the storm hits:-
Listen google The canonical url for my site is the homepage with the www - I have done the 301 - this is the page with the most backlinks - it is the page that should rank for the company name search. Etc."
Good luck everyone :)
>Today could make or break some business's so you should forgive us our moanings
Yes - remember Jagger3 will hopefully bring a fix for certain issues - but not only that is a base G will be moving forward on for the next year or so perhaps.
Some people will say dont rely on Google to much - but Google can build and destroy a business by itself - eg like when a Car Plant closes in a certain area - lots of little companies close that provide for that car plant.