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Update Austin - January 24, 2004

on DC: 216.239.37.99

         

paulk

5:22 am on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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DC: [216.239.37.99...] Major Shuffle, looking worse then ever, results look very bad, anyone seeing this?

canuck

7:58 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Robert123: allintext seems to exactly match google.it

Close, but not exactly on several searches I've done... add a little allinanchor/allintitle to the mix and this seems to be the mix for Google.it

DVDBurning

8:10 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Pre-austin we were getting aprox. 1700 unique hits a day. Post austin im getting 3500-4500 unique hits a day, however most of my google ranks have dropped severly and I do not see an increase of hits from other search engines.

Another thing that is weird about this is that pre-austing when we were getting 1700 hits a day, the daily bandwidth was around 500MB. Now with 4000 hits in one day its up around 600MB.... a 3X traffic increase with a .25% bandwidth increase. It doesnt make any sense...

Big ISPs like AOL will cache content from popular sites. This means that visitors to your site might still hit your site with one small page request, just to check the date last modified, but if the content has not been changed recently, it will be provided by the local cache, not your site. This might explain an increase in hits, without the associated increase in bandwidth.

Typically, you would want to measure unique visitors, not unique hits... one page request can be counted as many hits... and one visitor can visit many pages.

BuoyBoy

8:11 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Digistix
Thats because you are now getting lots of traffic from google on worthless broad matches and they are probably hitting one page and leaving thus using little bandwidth.

panic

8:12 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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that doesnt mean anything.

It means more than you think it does.

Google is huge.

Yes... yes it is.

Just because he works there doesnt mean he knows what the algo programmers are up to.

Surely, they don't have meetings... I mean, who has meetings anymore?

Kirby

8:13 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Not sure what the algo is doing but it seems it may penalize a site for being about one topic and having the word too much or something.

Lets not start with the penalty theories again. There are too many examples to prove otherwise. With numerous pages all capable (or worthy) of page one results, simple tweaks - not penalties - just a 1/4 turn of the knob, is enough to send one page down and lift another up.

Yidaki

8:15 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>a 3X traffic increase with a .25% bandwidth increase.

Sounds like most of your new traffic comes from bots. (No images, just text, hence the low bandwith increase.)

wattsnew

8:18 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<<So serving irrelevent free results force consumers to click on adwords....the days of planning your business on free listings and SEO is over.....At least with PPC, I have control, and don't lose sleep over the whimiscal results from google these days.>>

Your future goes from Google's right hand into the left hand.... Enjoy your nap!

Say, do people shop at Walmart or at Uncle Waldo's General Store? Yes, Austin is killing small business....just as small business in the B and M world has been squashed by the chains. The Web is a reflection.

Adwords CPC increasingly will not work for small business. Yahoo and MSN won't be offering discount advertising either. Survival in a niche on-line business may be possible but it looks like guerilla tactics of a high order will be necessary.

[edited by: Marcia at 12:50 am (utc) on Jan. 28, 2004]
[edit reason] Off topic for WebmasterWorld posts per TOS. [/edit]

ByronM

8:23 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I was good yesterday.. today i've fallen through the roof.

Went from 2000+ unique to 325 uniques today from google.

ouch

I've lost every serp keyphrase i had before and i have some new ones that change almost every query and they're dropping like flies.

nevetS

8:26 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Strange update, my traffic is back up to normal levels today. I noticed that my inurl count increased dramatically. My keyword referrals aren't dramatically changing, so I don't think I picked up any inadvertant SERPs.

Could it be yet another data change? Today's traffic already has yesterdays traffic beat.

(from where I'm sitting, my targeted keyword serps are still in the toilet, but the traffic is here)

killipso

8:30 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I need a hug

digitsix

8:59 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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all I have to say is: this sucks =)

edh1138

8:59 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Having survived Florida and now died in the rankings post-Austin, I begin to wonder if G is worth using as a SE?

If my keywords won't find my sites (when once they did) then how can I be certain that my general, everyday searches will be worth the effort?

ByronM

9:01 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i don't know what is happening but i'm seeing old stuff, or what looks to be meta tags being used and i'm seeing different serps all the time.

I'll just take a nap and hope i wake up to a better google in the morning.

mikeymikey

9:07 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)



edh1138 - You don't have to wonder what type of sites come up for searches you perform unrelated to your site...

Give it a shot. The majority of all searches I've performed over the past two days have all produced significant amounts of garbage. My experience has found it extremely difficult to use Google right now to find what you're looking for. I've just about had it with them.

Robert123

9:25 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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the google.it and google.fr servers have been stable for what seems all day.

The are the only versions that show decent results in my opinion...

digitsix

9:31 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK ****... i just did some searches on google.it and my site is back in the good rankings it was pre-austin... what does this mean if anything?

too much information

9:32 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What I'm seeing is that the amount of junk in the SERPs is decreasing, and although the results are not excellent, they are much improved and moving toward relevancy.

Is this what everyone else is seeing?

(I'm talking WWW, not specific centers)

pleeker

9:37 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i just did some searches on google.it and my site is back in the good rankings it was pre-austin... what does this mean if anything?

Time to offer an Italian version of your site? :)

Robert123

9:41 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have been seeing two very similar sets of serp's today--an addition to 3-4 other sets.

I just saw a set hit that looked to be a combo of these results--seemed to be better than either set.

Maybe in the end---when all is revealed, they might have come up with something that works--

someone has to be optimisic around here

jojojo

9:44 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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actually I was wrong .it looks like www now - what I meant was google.es

google.es is rocking for me :))

Robert123

9:45 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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serp's on google.com seem to switch more frequently between two data sets...anyone seeing this

digitsix

9:48 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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YES! it appears that the GOOD PRE-FLORIDA results are back on www.google.com! whooohooo!

Robert123

9:53 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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first new serp set i have seen on google.it

george123

9:57 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lets wait guys a few weeks ,during Florida I was disappear from Nr 3 with main key word "real estate" ,just before the end of Florida update I was back in my good old place I haven't change anything and during the Austin I am still in my place. What does that means? it means nobody knows what's in Goggle's brain.

idoc

10:12 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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makemetop,

I see by the inference you are probably doing what I have been doing feverishly for the past two days. Google...she's become somewhat of a cheap date from what I see.

panic

10:17 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Having survived Florida and now died in the rankings post-Austin, I begin to wonder if G is worth using as a SE?

I stopped using Google so long ago because of spam and irrelevant search results. Hail Inktomi!

MHes

10:20 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"It is nothing to do with optimization on your "little" sites, it is all about making you the premium location for ALL the sites you do ;) "

What does that mean?

dual22

10:25 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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good question, I don't understand the sentence by makemetop

merlin30

10:25 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Presumably Makemetop is infering that a HillTop type algo is at work. Make your main site look like an important authority site.

drewls

10:29 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There may be some truth to that, but until we see more consistent results, the old William Goldman adage holds true:

Nobody knows nothin'. :D

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