January 2003 Google Update

The real deal.

[my3cents]

I am seeing no backlinks for yahoo or dmoz on www2 or www3, also serps are changing. Is this it?

[namniboose]

2 sites that I am monitoring haven't been updated (the cache still shows an old version). Has the update not finished yet?

[1milehgh80210]

Showing last months cache on www2 & www3.
Not showing Any? links.

[sanchez]

getting same results on 1,2 and 3.

I hope that's it!?

[hurlimann]

Settled here in the UK

[EliteWeb]

nice to see the links found that link back, many of which ive found ive never seen give me hits :D

[chiyo]

richardb wrote>>

Not one change on a single site, and they've all been doing so well on the up and up every month but this update? OK at least the PR & SERP's haven't gone > but no change at all on any site.

<<

1. Your competitors got better

OR

2. You forgot to update! Google loves new content and new pages. We note our fresh pages get a boost for 3 months or so. Stale old pages tend to stay the same or go down slowly.

[bmwhonda]

Hi all,

I am new to this so have some questions:
- How do I find out how many back links to my site?
- My site is new in Google so I don't have any PR- how can I build PR besides trying to get link ( unsuccessful)?

TIA.

[fathom]

We note our fresh pages get a boost for 3 months or so. Stale old pages tend to stay the same or go down slowly.

Same here. Noting just changing 1 word (preferable link & anchor) as this changes the dynamics of the page but a page title is just as good.

If you don't have the time to add and link lots of new content that is. ;)

[fathom]

How do I find out how many back links to my site?

Type your domain name into Google search box without http:// tthen click on "link to".

My site is new in Google so I don't have any PR- how can I build PR besides trying to get link ( unsuccessful)?

sorry -- trying to get links is the only way - PageRank is Google's version of link popularity.

Add more pages to your site will help but unless you have external inbound links to support you will not go very far.

[mosley700]

>>Has the update not finished yet?<<

No, it has not finished yet.

[ReRun]

Thanks to all for the quality of posts on this forum - has made all the difference for a newbe like me.

A question on the update and its impact on Yahoo results.

Yahoo "Advanced Search" reflects the new Google results for my keywords. Searching the same keyword off the Yahoo home page generates very different results.

Is this a function of a partial update or is there a thread someone could point me to on the differences between results from these two Yahoo searches?

[getvisibleuk]

google.co.uk defo has not updated yet - well the version I can see anyway!

[ReRun]

More on Yahoo discrepency:

For my key keyword on Google, I'm in the first 20 results on Google out of 11.7M results.

For my key keyword on Yahoo Advance search, results are the exactly same as Google.

For Yahoo Search from their home page, I'm not in the top 20. There are only 11.1M results. Results have no correlation to Google.

Here's where it gets a bit odd. Go to "Next 20" on these results, and suddenly there are 11.7M results which exactly match Google from number 21 on.

It seems the first page is out of synch, and since I'm on it, I'm nowhere on Yahoo for their homepage search. Any insight would be greatly appreciated...do I just need to be patient?

[gilli]

ReRun:

Don't fret, the update is still taking place and weird things will be seen for a little while yet. Do read too much into what you are seeing now as they could mean almost anything or nothing at all.

Just relax & check back in a couple of days.

[ExtremeExports]

when is the deepcrawl going to start? I have about 50-100 more pages I want to finish updating and have up before the craw? Is this possible? Do i have a couple of more days?

[gilli]

ExtremeExports:

Can't say exactly however I would recommend getting anything you want in the next update up ASAP.

My site has been crawled on the 26th & 27th however I expect more over the coming days.

In the last round main crawl appeared to be on the 4th & 5th of Jan with some other crawling done on the 1st of Jan and in the last days of Dec.

Don't want to try and crystal ball it, so do your best to get as much up as quickly as possible.

I'm in Australia (a funny land on the other side of the international date line) - at the moment its the 28th of Jan, so bear in mind that my dates are slightly different to yours.

[edit]Oops its actually the 28th on the board as well, but only just[/edit]

[hurlimann]

It's already started but fear not it as it goes on for a while

[polarmate]

Google has replaced my URL with that of an affiliate link ie instead of
http://www.mydomainname.com
we are now listed as
http://www.mydomainname.com/?AID=99999

The AID that shows is not a valid Affiliate ID and I can't find any affiliate site that has used this ID. So I have no idea where Google got this link from. Or why it chose to replace our URL thus.

None of the other affiliate links show up - not in the backward links nor in the related links.

Any thoughts?

[twotasty]

AAAAH. Ok i too am a tad bit on the new side of things..

I made several changes today (01.27.2003), will they show up by the end of this? Or is it over?

[twotasty]

also, totally noob question...

How can i check my PR? i have seen this term used for the longest and have learned to understand only from context.

[crumpeta]

polarmate,

I recently ran into the same problem. We discussed it here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

It turned out that google indexed my site as site.com
and an affiliate link as site.com/index.html

I'm speculating that G saw the content as the same
for these two pages and dropped one, in my case
my site.com entry. I think it did this because the affiliate
redirect page had more PR than my site.com page.

I changed the code on my servers so that affiliate links
redirect to site.com instead of site.com/index.html
and am hoping this will solve the problem.

[notsosmart]

Backlinks are identical accross the board for me. Is it over, or is the orchestra resting?

[Hunter]

Not quite over yet, should be soon though

[przero2]

It looks like aol is updated too!

[javascripter]

I don't see how it could be over yet. It's wierd but I'm showing in my sitemeter that people did searches and had my sites in their results....they clicked through from google. But when I go back and do the exact search in google nothing comes up. It only comes up in www2.google.com and www3.google.com. Are some people getting the results from www2 and www3 in some places and others not? I'm puzzled.

Javascripter.

[twotasty]

java i am seeing the exact same thing. hoping whats in www2 and www3 will translate to actual results at the end, thats if it isnt over..

[Brett_Tabke]

Ya, still floating around [webmasterworld.com] here too.

[Jimmie]

When I do a search, I notice sometimes I get the new updated results and sometimes the old...it's still toggling between the 2.

Regarding Yahoo main page search, someone mentioned it doesn't reflect google ne update, it does for me, exactly.
So, does AOL.

I'm a good indication of what's happening because I went from babrely indexed and PR0 last month to PR6 now, so that I am showing up number one in all the engines means they are all reflecting google's new update or I would be nowhere to be found like last month.

[mpvader]

Overhere still changing. google.nl is shows the updated version, and .com shows the old version.

[Hercules2]

I have climbed from pr3 to pr6 :)))) and my best competitor has pr 5 but i'm still on resultpage 2. I only climbed two places. I think my site's lay out is almost optimal for "vermogensbeheer"
can this ranking still change?
greetz and good luck everbody with the dance!